Tips On Meditation And My Latest Encounter

Because the posters on this story talk about the "guru of gurus" BABAJI, and Shiva, hinduism and meditation, I recommend a best selling book about a young man who left christianity, to practice new age stuff like yoga, meditation, mind control, telepathy. He also lived in hindu ashrams in India, and met Babaji twice... His mind, body and soul became a battlefield between God and the spirits, he even got possessed. He talks from EXPERIENCE, not theoretically... Hear the truth straight from the horse's mouth! Read this mind blowing book, and find out what the hell happened to him! It's called: "THE GURUS, THE YOUNG MAN AND ELDER PAISIOS", by Dionysios Farasiotis, at amazon.com. This guy's amazing experience has helped a lot of spiritual seekers, and saved them from many mistakes and dangers in their journey. Good luck!

Dear Posters,

I sent in this experience to help those who want help with meditation. Especially with the concentrating part.

It is kind of a little tiring to repeat these steps over and over again via mails when it is posted right here.

Please read and reread it. I am realizing that some of you do not like to read or at least do not like to read for long.

Also, you can try lighting candles. This helps with concentrating.

And remember practice makes perfect.

Thank you.

Thanks for reading though. I really tried my best with this article.

Really appreciate it ❤

this one is very nice too.:) kudos

I have to type more but I don't really have anything else to add or comment.

Aww...thanks a lot for that post of yours 😊 I really appreciate it. This always encourage me to continue studying the spiritual world. It is like a never ending book 😁

Yeah, I've been trying to get a handle on myelf and abilities but eventually I felt pulled back to this site. I admire how much you comment on and read so many posts. It seems I'm always running into your comments and I appreciate you're not one of the many people kind of faking it or really trying to mislead people 😊

I am well thank you. It is nice to read your posts again 😊

Long time no hear.

Thanks for sharing this. If its possible to send messages on this site, I've yet to figure out how. I just wanted to say hi and I hope you're doing well I haven't been on for a while but I'm correcting it! Again, hope you're doing well and balanced:)

NaturalScience

Ganjah does tend to open up your senses. But when taken too much can damage brain cells.

But if a God visits you and tells you to try it, then all I can say is that is between you and Shiva. I guess he will know what is best for you.

~what may may good for you, may not be good for others and vice versa.

Thank you for sharing your experience
I have learnt some more about Lord Shiva from you. Please read my last story about him. I believe you are the best person to advise me on that experience 😐

NaturalScience
I saw your story on The Spiritual Site. I will be reading it and commenting on it ❤

I too have submitted a story yesterday. I do hope you can help me with it 😊

Hi Ursala, I know that book only by name but now probably will buy it. God bless.

Just a quick note to NaturalScience:I saw the Neal Peart lyrics in one of your responses. Have you ever read his book, Ghost Rider: Travels on the Healing Road? It's written in journal style documenting how he dealt with tragedies in his life. I am not an overt fan of Rush but his book helped me immensely in dealing with an unexpected tragedy in my own life. Regardless, I'm sure you would appreciate his book and his honesty.

Thank you. But do not worry I am sure they will print it. You are a very intelligent person.

God made all the herbs. But it is man that takes those herbs and add chemicals to them, thus making them dangerous.

Eg, the coca leaves are good to take naturally to appease hunger, but a scientist took the herb, added chemicals to it, and WHAM we have cocaine as we know it today. God did not create that harmful substance for us. We as humans tend to make stuff that can eventually kill ourselves. And the sad thing is, we blame God.

There is exceptions from all rules - if it is God who makes them. You will know what I mean after having read the story on that other site. NB they sent me a copy by e-mail. If it should be refused by the site I'd need your POSTAL address to send it to you on PAPER for this would mean the story really is a matter of discretion. Mail the address to me on vrampold007 [at] web.de. It would give me the occasion to write to you and thus tell you more than safely possible on WWW! I left many gaps here, for safety!

Hanumanji depictions as a monkey man really puzzles me too when I was younger. But now I have more understanding now.

I am ABSOLUTELY against the use of mind altering drugs in rituals.
Humans have the ability to talk to deities without them 😐
You made an excellent decision not to take them.

As soon as your story is published I will read it ❤

eh as to my story on Spiri-and-so-on it isn't out yet. I clicked Publish some eight hours ago but it does not show up. A pity I've been writing it on a computer out of my house, at my working site, and so could not store it. Perhaps it has gone lost entirely. Something seems to be wrong with the technicalities on the site. Or perhaps they select manually and publish thus with several days'retardation.

Who? HANUMANJI?
I don't know more about Ogun than his name and what you said and that he is worshipped by the Ayahuasca-using people in Brazil and otherwise, I once knew one who was German, she sang to me a song from their "trabajo" in which one stanza begun with "Aie Santa Maria" and the next with "Aie rey Ogun." (She urged me to take part in trabajos. She regularly conducted such rituals at her home. Hope she has not been pursued or fined for that by now... Of course I refused. Too dangerous. That draught is stronger than LSD. One can go mad from it. I fear mental asylums more than death.)
But Hanumanji - although I thought at first, what, a deity in the body of a monkey, absurd, kid's tale, believing in this one to be real is like believing that a rabbit ("Osterhase") gives off the Easter eggs - I can't help meself, I love the story of Him and Lord Ram more than any other Hindu story I know and Master Hanuman is more of an example to me for daily life than any other character from the "pagan" world of myths!
Puzzling that you mention Hanumanji NOW - for just some hours ago I thought I'd like to see him in a dream too.

Natural Science
Are you familiar with the similarities between Ogun and Hanuman in hinduism?

Spiritual beings get stronger when you share about them to people. That gives out an energy which they absorb. Now you would ask permission for talking about certain things first though.

Do not be alarm. That is sort of cool.

There is a lot of ignorance out there. People need to know the truth.

Seek NaturalScience on Spiritual Experiences. There is ONE post of mine there. This is it.
Nothing more about my guy. Things are very difficult still. Discretion shuts my mouth.
NB! Just half an hour ago I saw that the almond-formed mark in center of my forehead - see my very first post here, no one answered it yet! Perhaps you have an idea - has shown up more clearly than it did all the three weeks after I mentioned it here. I thought that it would disappear entirely. Now it has a clear contour again. Maybe that is because I dared to tell the world about those meetings with Kali and Babaji in my dreams, and about the instant of recognition I described in the report on Spiri-and-so-on.

You are lucky to have a boyfriend for nine years.
I have trouble with ones lasting for ONE year 😆

It is difficult at times to be with people with different belief systems. But I am very glad you two have the maturity to work through that. I pray that you two become equally yoked on that matter.

On the subject of UFOs. I usually see them while meditating. I never wrote on it because it sounds too crazy.

I pray at certain times. But I should get into the habit of praying more 😐

What is the name of your story?

I don't retire to a certain room to pray. Also no longer have an altar. Due to the fact that my boyfriend is an areligious one who could taunt at it.
(No further comment about him except that he now, in our ninth year, and only after a "big bang" I made happen to him on a very mundane level, finally did the step to work regularly. But I don't think him a more hopeless case than I was, or am, for sometimes he perceives spirits - three times during our nine years - and about twelve years ago saw an U.F.O., together with a friend, for several minutes, hovering over a field near his home town, they saw the ship near and in detail, he even made a drawing of it, and both of them were completely sober at that time, it was no effect of alcohol or other substances.)
I pray during ordinary life. Whenever I do not have to use my brains for something else. Driving my car. Weeding the garden. Scrubbing the floor. Even on the loo. God is everywhere.
Read my new experience post on Spiritual Experiences and you will have some riddles about me solved. I know I was dare-devil by writing it. Hope no one will misuse it. Pray for that.

Thank you so much for sharing your experience ❤
I believe you experienced the Mother Kali because you talk about her with such deep passion and kindness.
I love reading up on Hindu Avatars. They are very different. The do not exploit people like some religious leaders do here in the west.
Now prayer DOES raise your spiritual level. So do not be surprised by the fact that you see divine beings appearing unto you.
Prayer is a very discipline exercise (especially when you come home late tired and still have to do it). So I do not consider you lazy. I have my moments of passing out while praying because of fatigue 😢

I love that story about the statue 😆
He is right when he said that to you. But we as humans love our gods so much that we feel comfortable making statues of them just so that we can feel that physical closeness to them during the day:D

Thank you so much for the lyrics of the song. It is very beautiful.

I will start incorporating music while meditating.

Thank you for letting me realize that there is music out there that can raise our frequencies instead of lowering them.

As a Supplement to my talk about music of RUSH and their high niveau, here follows an example of their lyrics. It is one of their most Heavy Metal style songs, "Double Agent" from an 80s album.
I am quite sure that Neil Peart, who writes the texts - he is renowned as the best Rock drummer that ever was, and also a prolific novel and lyric writer - NEVER writes about anything that he did not experience, or feel, by himself.
See what I mean with "honest atmosphere"?
The subjects on which I meditate with RUSH are, as you see, Truth, Courage to follow the right way, and the Last things.

"Double Agent"

Where would you rather be?
Anywhere but here
When will the time be right?
Anytime but now

'On the edge of sleep, I was drifting for half the night
Anxious and restless, pressed down by the darkness
Bound up and wound up so tight'

So tight...

'So many decisions, a million revisions
Caught between darkness and light...'

Wilderness of mirrors
World of polished steel
Gears and iron chains
Turn the grinding wheel
I run between the shadows
Some are phantoms, some are real

Where would you rather be?
Anywhere but here
When will the time be right?
Anytime but now
Where would you rather be?
The doubt and the fear
I know would all disappear
Anywhere but here
Anywhere but here...

'On the edge of sleep, I heard voices behind the door
The known and the nameless, familiar and faceless
My angels and my demons at war'

At war...

'Which one will lose depends on what I choose
Or maybe which voice I ignore...'

Wilderness of mirrors
Streets of cold desire
My precious sense of honor
Just a shield of rusty wire
I hold against the chaos
And the cross of holy fire

Wilderness of mirrors
So easy to deceive
My precious sense of rightness
Is sometimes so naive
So that which I imagine
Is that which I believe

'On the edge of sleep, I awoke to a sun so bright
Rested and fearless, cheered by your nearness
I knew which direction was right'

Was right...

'The case had been tried by the jury inside
The choice between darkness and light...
The choice between darkness and light'

Kali Mata ki Jai! I am happy to hear that you do not write "this was not Kali but Spirit XY from coutry XY" but believe too it was Her who I saw. If you meet with Her, I think you will as I am sure you are near Her wide heart, bring to Her my pranam.
Babaji people often say they meet the Master or other heavenly beings in dreams. To me, this happened only once respecting the Master. It was in later student years, probably 1988, when I did full Arati ritual every morning. I thought this is what Baba expects of his "devotees" - his servants in the German Babaji ashram think so and I did not know better. I was exhausted every time afterwards, and very disappointed about this, as I thought, from the meaning of the ritual song texts, one would feel like Supergirl afterwards if done corectly and that I must be doing it wrong or be unworthy of the proper effect, thus I quit doing that ritual about the year 1994. Till that time I did it more or less regularly. Full arati ritual takes 45 minutes, of constant singing.
Now that dream. I had it when I, first time after many weeks, allowed meself a midday nap. I had refused that to me for I thought that if Babaji says work hard, He could see me as lazy and be angry with me if I enjoy leisure or daytime sleep. In fact I lived on Work-Sleep-Eating-Praying from 1988 to about 2002, in order to please Him and be allowed to feel the bliss often described in the Bhajan songs. I was very puzzled about him to appear to me while being so "lazy"!
In the dream I was cleaning up my altar where a Shiva Nataraj idol stood, and I accidentally threw the statue over. I got a big fright, thinking Shiva could be angry about me being clumsy with an image of Him, and cried out loud "SHIVA_JIII!" In the same instant, Baba stood before me, and he said, in a somewhat cross tone, like a father correcting a kid that believes stupid things: "Why do you panic, this is just a statue!" (German: "Was regste dich auf, das is doch nur eine Figur!" He spoke German to me) Afterwards he told me questions I should ask meself, but unfortunately I forgot them completely. Only the thing about the idol remained in my mind.
I hope he will keep patient with that elementary school pupil worth mark "F" who is me...

I use to preach on that 'burning in hell' crap until I realized that there is NO fear in love. And that is what I loved about Babaji and other wonderful avatars like him. They teach one being unified with all people, not judging them for their belief system.

I myself have had an unhealthy dislike for christians for awhile until I matured. But some of its messages still at times just gets under my skin.

I do not think Mother kali should be feared, to me all the gods have their dark moments.
I understand your connection to her.

I myself have had my run ins with lunatics, some people can testify to that on this site. I had to end up blocking them on my yahoo messanger... Terrible experience. 😐
I am glad that you did not let them bring you down. You are a strong woman.

I believe your dream was from Kali because you stated that you immediately knew it was her. I really wish I could of meet her, you are lucky. He was probably trying to pass on a lesson to you to help you.

I am very glad to here positive things about her ❤. I appreciate these few times.

I agree with you that Christianity likes it very much to bring everybody down who is not a Christian, or even just another kind of Christian. The fact that Christian doctrine tells people they will fry in Hell if they pray to God under other names as those taught by the Gospel, or even just if they do not get baptised, makes the "good news" of Gospel, in reality, a message of blackmail. I suffered horribly during my youth because of this. Babaji's teachings freed me from that, to a certain extent. Perhaps I would have gone mad without that. A remnant of the learned horror of Hell, however, has remained, and perhaps is my greatest hindrance although seldom conscious.
As to Kali Ma: I love Her too - don't know why, I should be afraid, She is a killer as her idols show, but I just do not feel She would think of killing ME. I feel She is the power of Thunder, of Heavy Rock music, of justified wrath, and of women who throw off "learned helplessness" and learn to fight, or to chop trees... I feel, so to speak, like some remote relative of Her. Once, however, I had a dream that really shocked me. It was in 1986 during my student time. I had very bad experiences just behind me, with a lunatic sect into which I nearly had gotten, and escaped at the right time... It was only a small local group, and some three months after I learned that the group had dissolved after my leave, I think now I had blasted their system, for only one of the members returned to the sect centre in France, the others came back to ordinary citizen behavior, thank God (dess)...
Now back to that dream.
I saw the face of a very beautiful young lady. I admired her. Then she, or some voice, said: Look better (in German: "guck mal richtig hin!"). I did, and at the same moment sat up in bed with blank horror saying "For God's sake!" for - one half of the face was not beautiful at all but it was a skull stripped of skin, the teeth showing without lips, like an anatomical drawing.
The lady, I knew in same instant, had to be the Horrible Mother Kali. I knew nothing of Her that time except the name and that She is depicted as horrifying, death-bringing.
According to my half-educated mind of that time, having read much popular psychology of the most misleading kinds, I then started reflecting to which extent the image of horror depicted my own soul, my own character. I came to the conclusion that "I am not ONLY Kali".
This was two years before I first heard of Master Babaji...
Rethinking it now I feel somewhat honoured, and there is no more scary feeling about it.

I love reading up on hindu deities and their avatars. I especially had a great experience with Lord Shiva sometime aback. I will write about it as soon as I get the permission. I have to respect certain wishes.
I absolutely believe in avatars. I believe that they are reincarnated gods that sometimes come to the earth to teach humanity forgotten principles. Humans have a way of straying off the right course and becoming destructive, especially to themselves.
Christians fail to realize that resurrection stories have been told way back as the sumerian civilization. Eg Dumuzi, Hercules was said to have died and resurrected as a god after three days (note the similarities)
The egyptian god Osiris was killed and resurrected after three days and so on.
Master Babaji has taught principles on how to improve ones life, so I really like him and believe him. No offense to anyone, but I trust middle eastern prophets more than western ones. I find that the western ones to be preaching on religious biases.
Master Babaji only talks on the unification of all religions. His followers stated that he never criticized any religion.

About the yoga, I know that there is the physical yoga and the spiritual one. I believe he more emphasized on the spiritual part of it.

I really like the principles in hinduism, but I believe that Mother Kali is greatly misunderstood.
She is both the creator and destroyer in a sense. She is not demonic. ALL deities desire blood sacrifices. Even down to the christian god. So I cannot understand the silly panic about Mother Kali. She is very beautiful. I have heard very good testimonials about how she helped people in India.

As for the meat thing, that does not make anyone righteous. Works does.

Bhole Baba ki Jai! I am amazed to see you know that master I revere, and his story and basic teachings. Even more amazed that you believe in avataras and that you think him really to be one. I never believed that anyone except Jesus, who proved divinity by resurrection, were an avatar; but I surely believe that good Master Babaji is a great prophet, a megaphone of God the Creator, who can everyone help to practise his religion, or his moral and spiritual path, in a way apt for our chaotic time.
He taught yoga? Not according to the meaning the word has for ordinary people. What he taught was Pray and Work, and Live in Truth Simplicity and Love, and Believe in the Power of the Lord's Name and Say or Think it as often as you can. He stressed that work is worship if done with righteous attitude - even if one is a decided atheist he/she can follow him in this respect. For those who have an affinity to rituals he taught the Mass of Hinduism, an offering of light, water and other pure things, called Arati, and also offerings to sacred fire, called Havan if a smaller fire and small amount of offering is chosen and Yagna if done with a large fire and rich offerings. It is only flowers, vegetable food and dairies that are given to the fire. Some of his Indian servants including his "vicar", Sri Muni Raji, also offer a goat to Mother Kali sometimes. But this is not obligatory. And most of his adherents are pure, even ascetic, in their lifestyles and eat no meat at all.
Me, however, an unimportant figure of outer circle, I eat as ordinary Germans do, including some meat (though I, if I had the chance to become a single woman again, would return to my student time's vegetarianism at once), and I am not ascetic. The Babaji things I adhere to are doing righteous work, and revering Mother Earth with hands and heart. With hands means, I cultivate my garden knowing that the soil I touch is part of the living body of Divine Mother Earth.
This is what I think to be our main world-wide chance for a good future. I dream of future Earth to be full of myriads of small and micro family farms, connected by modern techniques to collection centrals where all surplus harvested is given to, to be processed and marketed. We do not need those industrial farms anymore, which prevent us from a life which, biologically and spiritually, fits best to Homo sapiens! I think most of bad habits and behavior patterns Man has developed to-day would be remedied just by making people FARM, instead of arteficial city life and stupid TV and PC idolatry... We have all techniques necessary to allow Man to cultivate Earth with hands and tools, as Adam + Eve did long ago.
I write this here not only to you Rashidah as I am sure you know it too, but to all people on the WWW open for truth. This is a message-in-a-bottle. May it reach its aim.

zthank you so much for the reference music. I will surely check them out.
It is very hard to get music that assist in spiritual elevation of humans 😐

Through centauries, there are known people who claim to be reincarnated gods.
I believe some are and some are not.

The safest thing to do is test these people. They are known for their works and not for what they claim.

Sri Haidakhan Babaji seem to one of the reincarnated gods. You can tell by his teachings.
People like these are rare. The gods choose their avatars very well [love)

Another factor that I look for in these claims is that these reincarnated gods will always come with teachings. Teachings that elevates people's lives. It also covers all aspects of the human's consciousness.

And that is what he does best.

He teaches yoga.😉

I believe that is is the reincarnation of Lord Shiva because he preahes on the prayer 'Om namah Shivaya'

From experience, when people come to me clsaiming that they are gods, the first thing I check is their attitudes. But his followers see him as very loving. They adore him.
Shiva is one of my favorite deities ❤

He emphasizes on the equality of all religions. He id not come to this earth to judge people. That amazes me.