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Throughout my life I've noticed various psychic and empathic abilities but didn't think much about them, as they just seemed part of life. As a teen-ager a major mental illness started developing and was diagnosed a few years later. I've been diagnosed with other things since and take meds for some (very little) and have used a special type of behavioral therapy called Dialectical Behavioral Therapy which is based on Zen Buddhist principles and cognitive behavioral therapy.

The reason I even mention it, is because it is the most effective and it has a definite ending unlike other kinds. The reason I bring these things up is I hear so many people thinking they are crazy when they experience psychic phenomenon. Also people who do have a brain disease or two or three, have similar experiences and think they are psychics.

As someone who is both I just wanted to clarify for folks that there is a quite a difference between the two experiences. I have had legitimate experiences while on and off meds, while peaceful and under duress, and people come to me for help no matter what.

For instance dappled light used make me feel like I was in another world, I later remembered a traumatic event early in life involving dappled light and I was actually having a PTSD reaction.

Shadows in my peripheral vision, triangle people (I would see little tiny people made out of black construction triangles) and some other visual things turned out to be part of psychotic episodes.

But I have seen ghosts, visions, auras, energy, and traveled remotely. The only thing that confuses me today is being empathic and having borderline personality disorder, as people with this heightened emotional state take on other people's emotions, think they are the characters in books, TV, movies because they feel them.

In all these cases the way I know the difference is that they feel very different. Brain chemistry issues usually have some level of fear and disorientation (for me) while my natural sensitivity is just that - natural - feels normal and if there is any fear it is outside me coming from something else and I know I can handle it. I'm curious about others dealing with this or anyone who has heard of "success" stories of folks dealing with both. I also am looking into doing a lot more to keep my chakras clean, increase compassion and "protect" myself - if you have any good sources for these, that would be great.

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bbdeathspark (4 stories) (617 posts)
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14 years ago (2010-12-23)
I'm not american or anything, but I agree with Dc too. America, admits their mistakes, and is one of the most helpful countries I've seen. America has really done a lot of good things for people.
cosmogal926 (3 stories) (73 posts)
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14 years ago (2010-12-23)
Woohoo! DC I applaud you. I agree with Shini, couldn't have said it better myself. 😊 Proud to be an American ❤
Shinigami0 (2 stories) (204 posts)
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14 years ago (2010-12-23)
DC- I couldn't have said it better, myself. I'm glad you provided your input on this one. 😊 ❤
DCinAZ (guest)
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14 years ago (2010-12-23)
This is my country, and let me show you what I see. I see a nation that admits it's sins openly, a country that is always there first for everyone on earth when there are tragedies and natural disasters. A country where private citizens have 'dug deep' and given more than most countries do to help others in need. A nation that falls over backward to accomidate the "United Nations" only to have our Presidents and ambassadors be the butt of jokes by piss-ant little dictators. We don't take over oil fields in the middle east, that was done by the Europeans, it all has been revealed by the wiki-leaks guy. We don't come in and steal your land away, steal your natural resources, turn the people into slaves. People can say what they want to about our country, but we're the only country their trying to get into and become a part of. You can move to Paris but you can't become French. But, you can move to America and become an American
DCinAZ (guest)
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14 years ago (2010-12-23)
Ananda, I'm very aware of what the 'Killing Fields' are, and my heart breaks for the sorrows your family and people have endured. I saw the movie years ago, I only had to see it once to know. My brother served in Viet Nam, he has since passed also. I've also worked many years as a volunteer helping Viet Nam vets. Our country abandoned Southeast Asia to the communists because of the pressure at home against the war and millions were slaughtered as a result. I've been reading your posts and I've noticed that no one has said anything in return whenever you sring up Cambodia and the killing fields. Do you know why? Because these days they do not teach the true history of this country in our schools. You can go on all day about how the U.S. Has to atone for the wrongs that we have committed but you are not telling the whole truth either.
AnandaHya (guest)
 
14 years ago (2010-12-23)
i would like to tell you what I've been taught. I hope it works not so much for me as for my father who is diagnosis with Paranoid schizechophrenia. He lived through the killing fields of Cambodia so I've really reasearched a lot in order to help him. All our religous men/monks were slaughters. I'm trying to recover lost knowledge. I believe I hear the voice of the dead who were slaughtered starting in 1975. I was born 1982 and came to the US in 1985. Check out my profile and please email me. I'm a science teacher. I'm approaching this as scientific research NOT games.
oldsoul64 (2 stories) (5 posts)
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14 years ago (2010-12-20)
Thanks all for your thoughts on this issue. I have heard of the anti-psych, and all the other problems people have with labels and treatment. The language I used was simply one that most can relate to, especially people who have been touched by it. The use of Disorder is just a clinical name, it's not my name obviously. I have my own personal beliefs about a number of these things too. However, the article was about telling the difference between something medical and something psychic. Maybe they are the same. They just don't feel that way to me. Or maybe it's always the latter with a different sensation attached to it. Either way this wasn't about labels or psychiatrists. Frankly I think all medicine is experimental and evolving. And I am one of those who has better living through modern chemistry. Take me off my meds and watch out. No one would call what I do psychic. I'm used to putting myself out there in both these areas and am not surprised by less than understanding or side conversations. But that's okay, I wanted to hear what you had to say, not reinforce my own belief or experience for the sake of sounding like a pro, which I am not. Thanks again for your feedback.
Rilan (1 stories) (103 posts)
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14 years ago (2010-12-14)
Shinigami, I mean that I don't believe those things are "illnesses" unless they are biological, which a few of those you mentioned were. I don't believe people should be labeled as "mentally ill" or "crazy." Everyone has problems with their emotions. Calling them a "disorder" is not helpful. Have you ever heard of the Anti-Psychiatry Coalition?
ghostgirl3512 (6 stories) (298 posts)
 
14 years ago (2010-12-12)
I'm really glad you put up this article, because I struggle with what's psychic, and what's just my mental problems acting up.

I'm bipoloar, have paranoia, and OCD, but I can still tell the difference between psychic and mental illness. There's just a certain feeling, almost like a vibration that you can't exactly feel going through you.

Anyways, thank you fro putting up this article. It's something people really need to understand.

Blessed be
Lolli ❤
epoy1984 (14 stories) (644 posts)
 
14 years ago (2010-12-10)
I am ssorry I do not meant to tease anyone please forgive my rudeness I am asking an apology. I do believe you are a psychic old soul 😊 ❤ 😉
epoy1984 (14 stories) (644 posts)
 
14 years ago (2010-12-10)
Mel33 I respect of whatever your opinion give and I do understand take care 😊 😉 ❤
Mel33 (guest)
 
14 years ago (2010-12-10)
Epoy,
In my own opinion I think there's a fine line between confidence and arrogance.
epoy1984 (14 stories) (644 posts)
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14 years ago (2010-12-10)
In my own opinion I am not crazy cause I do really have psychic abilities for I tested it in the past and the result is great. I think emotionally retarded and mentally retarded are both the same than the title of your story good day to all 😆
Mel33 (guest)
 
14 years ago (2010-12-10)
You remind me of someone, other than myself. The similarities are really quite odd in fact.
lilylove (3 stories) (362 posts)
 
14 years ago (2010-12-09)
I am glad you decided to write this because people who have an illness and happen to be psychic are believed to be crazy and nobody will listen to them and that wrong.
Shinigami0 (2 stories) (204 posts)
+6
14 years ago (2010-12-09)
Old Soul- Being interested in Psychology, your story was facinating to me. Its always nice to hear people on this site who look into natural causes, before jumping to the conclusion that they indeed had a paranormal experience. It was also interesting to read about how you coped with some of your obstacles, and took an interest in learning about them. I look foward to reading more of your experiences.
😊 ❤

Rilan- So... You don't believe in the various types of Schizophrenia, depression, anxiety, DELUSIONAL DISORDER, bipolar disorder, autism, phobias, OCD's, acute stress disorder, alzheimers, anorexia nervosa, asperger syndrome, ADD, ADHD, binge eating disorder, bulemia nervosa, bibliomania, dissociative disorder, Huntington's disease, insomnia, narcolepsy, OCPD, ODD, pain disorders, panic attacks, Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, Tourettes, and Tic disorder to name a few?

I'm sorry, but your comment is a slap in the face to everyone who has a mental condition. I personally know family friends who have a few of these, such as anxiety, schizophrenia, autism, OCD, panic attacks, ect. I don't think they'd like it too much if someone labelled it as "symbolic". I know they sure as hell don't want it apart of their "human experience".
Rilan (1 stories) (103 posts)
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14 years ago (2010-12-09)
Personally, I don't believe in mental illness. I believe that everything we see and hear and feel has a reason and it is legitimate in its own way, sometimes otherworldly and sometimes symbolic. Great sorrow or trauma should not be called "mental illness." The term "mental illness" depersonalizes the human experience. The label of mental illness has caused great sorrow for many people, who are classified this way because they either have complex inner worlds, they are psychic, or they're just different. There is nothing that upsets me more than the word "Mental Illness."
pegs_deborah (3 stories) (112 posts)
 
14 years ago (2010-12-08)
Thank you oldsoul64 for clarifying that. Weirdly enough I was reminded of that information during my Abnormal Psych class yesterday. Synchronicity works in unusual ways, I guess.:)
oldsoul64 (2 stories) (5 posts)
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14 years ago (2010-12-07)
Thanks everyone. For pegs_deborah what I did not include in the article is that if someone has symptoms that appear to be psychic but it's really a chemical imbalance there are plenty of other symptoms and actions the person will manifest. Most likely you would never get them mixed up. For instance I have a type of bipolar disorder at the moment and when it gets set off my thoughts race, my speech is pressured, I can't complete a thought during a conversation, my sleep might be off, or I'll be very irritable and argumentative as well as see my cat, who has died, out of the corner of my eye. Somebody who is psychzophrenic may hear voices telling him what to do, but he will also have a host of non-psychic traits going on at the same time.
Thebigm (8 stories) (32 posts)
 
14 years ago (2010-12-07)
Great article OldSoul - thanks for posting your experiences.

I have had the feeling of going crazy, disconnected from the physical world following periods of lucid dreaming and sleep paralysis states. Meditation helped with this a lot and after a while, I began to feel normal again. Although I'm still experiencing Lucid Dreams and Sleep Paralyis I'm trying to Astral Project and I'm comfortable.

I no longer think/fear I'm going crazy.

Your article has helped clarify this:)
pegs_deborah (3 stories) (112 posts)
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14 years ago (2010-12-07)
I agree Chetyre. Before we jump on the "I'm having a psychic experience bandwagon," we do need to explore the matter in a rational manner. Look for the obvious answers first before jumping to the less than obvious.
Chetyre (guest)
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14 years ago (2010-12-07)
Excellent article "oldsoul64"

I wish more people would take things like this into account before jumping into the "I see faeries/ghosts" bandwagon.

I am of the mindset that much of what we see can be easily attributed to optical illusions, traumas of the past, wishful/magical thinking or simply embellished story telling.

I am not saying everyone does but I always felt it is best to approach every so-called psychic experience in a logical and level-headed manner.
pegs_deborah (3 stories) (112 posts)
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14 years ago (2010-12-07)
Thank you for being so honest. I have often wondered how any of us can legitimately tell ourselves that we see, feel, and hear is psychic and not mental illness. I am graduate student working on attaining her Masters in Counseling. My goal is to become a licensed counselor. Although I do believe in psychic phenomena (having experienced much myself), I have, as a student, been confused at telling the difference between it and many mental health problems. What I am trying to say is you've given me some food for thought on the subject.

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