Is Inviting Spirits A Good Idea?

THIS IS FOR RAVENALOT. Many people are gifted, many see or hear or in my case Know things. This can't be shut off. IF YOU don't believe in any of this, you are and have demons around you. You have three to which keep away one good angel. Because you have shut out the truth you can't here him. You have basically attacked many good people and myself when we are only making statements. In my case I spoke the proven truth to which you downed me as all past prophets had been just for speeking the truth. Only demons can't be in the same room as truth, that is why you rebel against us.
The spirit of truth is not in you, if it were, you would be pleasant and not rude. Take care and close your door, to many spirits are coming inside and putting you on their track not yours. 😠 😢

Hey this conversation is going nowhere. Anyways let's put an end to it. Hey great unknown, you really don't have to talk to spirits because they really have no message to give and sometimes they do have. In day we walk and do our daily works. Just like our day, night is day for spirits. They walk and do what they want. As for your grandma, she will let you know how she is doing. Just pray for her that she is happy and at peace in her after life.

Ok,one more time. The water I referred to was the river, that's where I live. I am not in the ocean yet, though I am connected to it, I move from the same primordial beginnings as ones I serve do. The sea is greater consciousness. All life travels into the great sea which surrounds and supports this life within it. We are all included in this cycle, where ever we find ourselves. Our lives travel innertwined, affecting what goes on inside the water, but not preventing the river flow to the sea. In other words, no matter how you or I present our belief, the call of the devine will still happen and we will all be drawn home to our devine parent. Fraudulant or with disregard for the outcome is your rightful opinion. I can explain what I mean if you like, if it will make it easier for you. I did not say her grandmother was angry, I said, where she was,Ireland,was definately a place to find spirits. However there has been a long history of angry dissheartened souls who have passed there because of revolution and depressed times. She is young and vibrantly alive, spirits will be drawn to that and it is important for her to protect herself with prayer if this (drawing of spirits without discernment) is trully what she wishes to do. I do feel pain from the past of her grandmother, I suspect she had heart trouble and it was hard for the granddaughter. I know that where the grandmother is, she (the grandmother) is free from that past pain. There was no saddling. Your emotion became more important than your understanding. You may call me a liar, I have no fear or concern for these judgements because my heart of hearts is true in what it knows or feels. No obligations were placed on the grandmother. The mentor is not the grandmother, but a future friend who will stand by her and help her through. I will, in the future speak in a much more complete and descriptive way. I can slow the words to make them easier to understand. My assumption that everyone here would always understand because it is so clear to me is presuptuous and I apologise for my allowing it to come out so quickly. Thank you for helping me with this understanding, With kindest regards, Blessed be, Ladyhawke ❤

For the GreatUnknown

If you fear that your grandmother has anger issues like hawk made you to believe or that she is not okay just take this into consideration:

I do not believe that any loving grandparent would saddle their grandkids up with their "anger or pain" IF ANY, they would understand that you have your own life, and that their interference from the spirit world would only drive you insane.

There are some things that kids should not know, to keep them happy and to leave them at peace and undisturbed.

Okay leave the grown up stuff to the grown ups themselves I will say...

Every spirit that crosses over have a healing period with lots of Angels to assist them in whatever issues they might have... And the Angels would keep their issues in "heaven" as to not make your life a living havoc.

Any issues of them, is not your concern, they would love you too much to burden you with stuff that would only disturb your entire lifestyle.

Hey hawke you said:

"Just as you know now. This river flows to the great sea, regardless of what goes on inside it. I am merely part of the water."

The part that really stands out is the part of "regardless of what happens in the sea"... Okay so this "river" of yours, let's call it your "soul outflow" just what you feel can go and run around and tell whoever whatever the hell you want to because "regardless of what REALLY goes on in the sea" you are entitled to let your river flow no matter how fraudulent or unsure it may be, since what really goes on in the sea connecting all souls or in God's Spirit doesn't really matter, regardless right?!

Please don't say stuff like "you feel her grandmother's pain, and you sense anger" it would only make this worse for the individual since you said she's okay before you said BUT I sense Anger... Wow... Really do you really want to drive this kid insane with your ludicrous opinions? I think it is pretty irresponsible, and you are not helping anyone here!

Some people who pretend to be psychics have become so good at lying to everyone and themselves it has become a habit and they don't even know they are doing it that's the saddest part of all!

Ravenula,I don't come here with a napsack full of information. I leave that to those who feel it important. What I do say, I do know, because it comes through the same connection we all have, without interpretation or the need to explain, except when some one asks. And those who hear it know its right because it resonates from deep within. Just as you know now. This river flows to the great sea, regardless of what goes on inside it. I am merely part of the water. Blessed be Ladyhawke ❤

I don't think she wants to give false hope to anyone here and yeah you are right that there is no point in trying to know how dead relatives are doing. They will let you know if they are happy or upset. I have seen some of my relatvies who passed away and they were doing fine. Some people think that calling spirits and talk to them is kind of adventerous but seriously its not. If spirits need any help from you, so they will appear before you. But we should be more careful when mean spirits are around. They will only trick and make you do wrong things. So I kind of agree with ravenula.

Listen lady all I am saying is Do not give false hope to someone nor pretend to know that you know the feelings or the mind of the author's deceased grandmother.

My knowledge tells me that to give false hope or to pretend to know something you do not really know, like the spirit's mind, then you are telling lies and acting like a demon.

When the Spirit has something to say to the author she will, whether the grandmother is okay or not, is not our problem, it is the spirit's problem, I am not talking about spirit rescue but about respecting the spirit regardless, and to simply assume that all is "okay" is vague... Since it can be either fantastic or bad... Each spirit has their own journeys to travel, and I also do not think that the spirit's grandchildren SHOULD worry about the deceased's destination lest the deceased comes to them to HELP THEM... And the author only wanted to know if she was "okay".

Now a question to the author: why do you want to know if they are okay? What do you think it would do you any good to have such knowledge, what could you possibly benefit from knowing?

Sometimes when you open yourself up to the spirit world expecting one thing you might find another thing, or lower entities out to deceive you as the spirit might have long left the Earth plane.

Just be careful!

Please read more closely what I have written. There is no assignment given to a particular spirit. Except to read what is important for whom it is important there is no tying up of spiritual knowledge. I have the freedom to come and go as God wills, it isn't hindered by anything managed by human kind. Your ability to know is greatly hindered by your knowledge. Unlearning is harder than learning, please try to see with out so many words. We need all of you not just your mind. In loving respect, Ladyhawke ❤

Hi ladyhawke I know you mean well but I agree with gerry from whence does this message come to give about her grandmother, from what spirit?!

It is perfectly normal for someone who just lost a family member maybe wanting to be protected or to feel watched over by the deceased once on the other side, but Truth be told not every grandma that passes away watches over that specific grandchild... For all that we know she might be watching over another grandchild or be nowhere near any of them as she prepares for a next reincarnation into the physical world or she could be healing and learning on the higher planes for her own personal spiritual growth.

We cannot put some obligation on a grandparent to be there for a grandchild, when they have their own journeys to attend to, higher up in the spiritual realms, each spirit has a choice to act as Guardian and stay for a while still on this plane, but some have to evolve and can't get held back by say a grandchild... Preparing for a new life maybe, wanting to leave the old behind etc.

Never assume that her grandmother would just become her "mentor"...she is just working through the trauma of losing someone dear to her, and this maybe her method of dealing with it, but that too can be very dangerous... It is easy to make yourself believe things that aren't really there!

Gerry,sometimes there is only the need of comfort and acknowledgement for a soul to move forward. There was only two posts for this soul.TheGreatUnknown.And it was her (?) thread. She is not resting well and these hindurances she feels is someone trying to protect her from another place, with love. There is a mentor comming to her, it could take some time, there's a lot of teen angst to come through first. She is precious and needs to know this. Blessed be, Ladyhawke ❤

Ladfyhawke with who are you sending that message?
Sometimes it helps us know who is being helped. 😊

Your Grandmother loves you and shes ok. She has looked in on you and your family from time to time. When you lie down at night don't bug her but send love her way and remember a good memory about her. Was she very sick? I read a troubled heart, and heaviness in her back. She is free of that now. If you want contact with the spirit world you live in the right place. But I sense anger there so please be careful. You are young and full of life, it is a drawing energy and must, for your sake, have protection. Follow the prayer that comes to your heart of hearts and you will be not only protected, but also more useful to God and the children of God. We need your loving kindness. Blessed be, Ladyhawke ❤

About these shadows on the corner of my eye, this happens every night watching TV, I thought it was my imagination. I have tried to focus on it but it won't let me. There is also movement and I think it's the wrigley's in my eyes.

And make this the last on the subject, I never said anyone was wrong, I do not judge, I only quoted scripture.
How is the weather in your country is it mixed up as Australia?

You are welcome shapeshifter and Gerry I know that you didn't mean to offend anyone. You stand for your beliefs that's a good thing and you can share your beliefs with others as well but you can't say that this person is wrong and I am right. Well you gotta keep your mind open for all beliefs and ideas and listen to what others have to say.

Hellooooo I have just read your comments, thank you all.
Nowhere did I put anyone down or make fun of their beliefs. Please read my notes and understand them entirely. I quoted out of scripture and not my words. You are attacking the person and not what is being said, this is not a Christian thing to do, assuming you are. I have the greatest and deepest respect for everyones opinion, I will not degrade you for that opinion as you have done to me. You must question, if you are on the right path, why the attack, are you listening to the wrong angels?
The attack you posed on me is an attack on God and scripture. I have found that every time a truth is told the people get stired, please consider that if you believe to be right, you have no reason to attack unless you are not confident in your belief and you feel you need reassurance by trying to convince yourself?
I am truly sorry that you only resort to name degrading because we think differently.
But will always love you all and will not let evil prevail. Gerry

-bows- Thank you. Yeah, that conversation was getting a little out of control. And that wasn't me who did that. Onward to the conversation...

I think maybe it is because we are inderectly looking at something. Just like people see more things through their peripheral vision and in shadows. Maybe it helps in seeing different things this way. Just like people see the shadows of things (sometimes spirits) in the corner of their eyes it is the same with reflections.

lol yeah. Guess this little pointless conversation is over. From now on everyone will keep an open mind to everyone's views. No one is going to force others to believe what they belive. Anyways shapeshifter, that was a great finisher to the pointless annoying conversation. Not to mention someone disliked me because of it.lol

Hi mubashir, I wonder about the reflections as well... Maybe it could be that our inner Spirit being one with the Universal consciousness may reflect to us in reflections what is already within us. LOL I thought that spirits only make us see what they want us to see, but it is in fact just Spirit seeing itself in "others".

Because I must say the last word.;) I have been having all of my disagreements and arguements with Gerry because he is close minded of others beliefs. Sometimes it almost seems like he barges in saying "I have seen the light and know the right path! Drop down your wronged beliefs and follow my path to heaven!" It is kind of rude to other people. Also when it seems like he doesn't give other peoples thoughts a consideration which in the beginning I did of his beliefs. There is only one way to end this fighting officially. SHOOTIN IT WITH FREAKIN SMILES!
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Well ravenula you maybe right about gerry starting all this but I don't see any point to keep arguing on that. Well there are some people who refuse to change, if they don't want to change then don't push them. Thats what I am saying. Anyways let's get back to the track. Why is it that we see ghosts and spirits in the reflections. Maybe these reflections are the oppsite of the world we are living in and the world of spirits. Well its just my point of view. If you guys have better views than mine and correct me if I am wrong, I would appreciate it.

To get back to the topic of ghosts and relatives... The veil between Life and Death is simply an illusion.

If everything is connected through quantum physics, there would exist no time and space between all beings of spirit.

So to think that Heaven is some far off place, far away from this Planet or any other planet for that regard is just an illusion.

If we are all part of God's Spirit, then we are all part of each other no matter how the "time and space" illusion may fool us.

If we are all part of consciousness and are all just essentially Spirit, then how can Heaven be so far and how can people be separated?

To seek your Ancestors you don't have to look too far since the Kingdom of God is within, and within your Heart you will Hear their whispers.

This veil between life and Death is an illusion, to make people fear Death and Spirit which they essentially are... Everyone is BORN DEAD, just a ghost (spirit) in a physical body that looks alive in anyway.

Those who fear ghosts or spirits are afraid of themselves, terrified of their own supernatural nature that lies beneath the perishable physical robes... The flesh is just an illusion.

To fear Spirit is to judge Spirit, a proper pot calling the kettle black affair.

Listen Mubashir go back into the comments and see who started the whole intolerance "saga" it was the gerry person... It was gerry who started to make fun of hundreds of other people's relatives acting as well meaning guides and protectors once on the other side.

I also believe that those who criticize "divine protection" never really experienced it for what it is... So gerry cannot judge and say that if your grandma or other relative came to aid you DOING GOOD helping you and saving you from certain bad circumstances in life, that they are DEMONS here to destroy us... And how can Love be evil? If Love is evil then I don't know what Bible that gerry is reading.

[at] Gerry.I am sorry I didn't mean that I agree with ravenula criticising your beliefs. In fact I am not happy about that. I was agreeing with ravenula about some of his beliefs.

Hey ravenula. I don't think you have to criticise gerry for his beliefs. He has his beliefs and he will stand for them. Like him I have my own beliefs and I will stand for them as well and the same goes for you as well ravenula. Its really rude to make fun of others like that. Will you like it if someone criticise your beliefs. Well if you keep an open mind to what everyone has to say about their beliefs then you can learn many new things and learn how others think.

Gerry you said "my attack blinded me to the Truth" and in the same breath "all views must be taken into account"... What the hell? If my views are trash, since they are "blind" views, then why would you take them into account at all? Why would you take a lie into account? Maybe because you are so good at believing lies?!

Have you ever heard of "listening before speaking" gerry? You always want to be right, no matter what, so fixed on your "views" that you fail to practice what you preach to take other views into consideration.

That is why you are so quick to reply, without reading or taking in, just on the attack mode the whole time.

But to end this little conversation I will accept that "I am wrong" in your eyes and move along, I won't waste my time to prove I am right when I know I am right... You don't know you are right, you just think you are right and therefore can't drop it no matter with how many contradictions you try to prove your distorted views as valid.

So okay yeah I am the fool. We are fools for Christ's sake, but ye are wise in Christ; we are weak, but ye are strong; ye are honourable, but we are despised. (1 Corinthians 4:10)

For the foolishness of God is wiser than man's wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than man's strength. (1 Corinthians 1:25)

Do not deceive yourselves. If any one of you thinks he is wise by the standards of this age, he should become a "fool" so that he may become wise. (1 Corinthians 3:18)

For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe. (1 Corinthians 1:21)

For it is written: "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate." (1 Corinthians 1:19)

For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. (1 Corinthians 1:18)

And my personal favourite to the wise that sees us true believers as fools:

At this point Festus interrupted Paul's defense. "You are out of your mind, Paul!" he shouted. "Your great learning is driving you insane." (Acts 26:24)

***Peace from the fool in Christ!

Hello Mubashir, I have only quoted from scripture, for which quote am I disagreed with? 😊

Well I gotta agree with ravenula. We came in this world for a reason. If we lose our right path, for help God has sent His angels to help us find the right path. When we are in our physical body, we are not be able to uncover all the truth immediatley. It takes time to know the truth that will help us find the right path and the reason why we are in this world. When we die, all the truth is revealed to us. We shouldnt keep a narrow mind that refuses the truth but keep an open mind that accepts all the truth and choose the path he believes in. Well that's what I think.

My dear objective friend, I only sound out the word of God in whom I trust, I have studied many books and bible and am a philosophy student. I resound the voice of Yod He Vav He, and not my own. If you don't believe in what I have stated, then you don't believe in the word of Him who sent us, and the word is the bible.
I am concerned that your attack has blinded you to the truth.
But let me say again, every opinion is valuable and must not let in the bad spirit of disagreement enter a healthy conversation to which we can all learn from.
In loving concern Gerry 🤔

Wow gerry I find it fascinating that you said "All Spirit is God" yet curse some spirits as meaningless demons...wow, and yet demons are also Spirit so they must be "God" too since you say "all spirit is God"?!

But what I find most sad is people like you who curse well meaning spirits who are practically Angels as Demons.

And yet you still call Angels Demons even though you said "all spirit is God".

And then you further contradicted yourself saying "that the Bible was not the cause of murder yet Satan Lives in the church". Wow!

You also say that there must be a firm black and white to everything yet look at how you contradict yourself around each hook and corner! MMM... I am not going to take you or your beliefs seriously, since everything you say is in fact GREY. 😆 😜

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