Comments for Demons, Demonic Possession: Page 1

DevilBaby- Why thank you. *blushes*

I've dug down in the rabbit hole a bit with some of the things with this site, and I must say- I ventured far, but after seeing the levels of... Well, you all are probably aware of what's been going on... Let's just say I came running out of said hole and never hope to go down again, LOL! It would probably be wise to keep that crowbar handy... 😉

Now, as a forum community, many different opinions, beliefs, and experiences are brought to the table. Should we respect one another? Definitely. If the topic at hand seems questionable, or if there is little clarity, should we ask questions and analyze our situation? It would be most wise of us, and to not do so would be foolish. (Careful, I sense another Sherlock Holmes quote coming on).

Now, I am only partially aware of how the site was before this apparent change took place. From what I heard, to put it bluntly, before the change, it was like a train wreck. Personally, I am glad to see posters question the theories they are presented with. It is most definitely a step in the right direction.

Shaolin- You and I both cannot deny that when one asks questions, they are doing so in search of knowledge. It may be a more direct way, but nonetheless, they are gaining knowledge for spiritual/personal growth, which could also be used to help others. This is good, is it not?
Perhaps you have misunderstood their intent. Do not look at it as an attack on you, but rather, their way of trying to understand where you come from. Sometimes questions must be asked multiple times for there to be a solid conclusion.
I do not mean to be frank, but the way I see it, patience is a virtue.

Well, there's my input. Gonna go watch a movie now.

Au Revior. 😊 ❤

Historical Jesus in fact existed. However there were more than one man named so.

Jesus is the son of the light. The problem came in when men who never knew him twisted his doctrine to suit theirs.

Once again, not defending but:

Shaolin, what ever powers you do or do not have is negated by your arrogrance. Have you ever wondered why Jesus did miracles and told the people NOT to tell the world? And they still cruxified Him. Just a thought.

Thats assuming Jesus did exist/was real. You do realize to some, that's just a story right?

Devil,

Offering a differing opinion is not discrediting someone. People should be judged by their actions and words. If I wander off topic people in the conversation (posting on the thread) will either ignore or comment on the statements.

You say you've been here for a year. Your name/profile says 1/22/2011. Therefore you probably had a different name. Why the disguise?

Shaolin, what ever powers you do or do not have is negated by your arrogrance. Have you ever wondered why Jesus did miracles and told the people NOT to tell the world? And they still cruxified Him. Just a thought.

Rook, I'm not sure what he means by "binding" but strong GOOD people can't be bond by others because their power comes from GOD and I believe GOD is more powerful than anyone who has taken mortal form.

Therefore, I repeat can we stop wasting our energy on this and focus on helping people?

If my post don't make sense you could just ask me to clarify, I do have a reason behind most of them and they are connected to the topic either in the original post or comments of the people who post later. Have YOU read the comments section Devil?

Everyone here has a unique set of talents and can reach a group of people the others of can't. I don't connect with everyone and PERSONALLY I am glad there are others who are willing to help that do connect with the ones I don't. Why can't we work together instead of fighting and help others?

If the person is obviously not listening, don't argue CHANGE THE TOPIC or walk away.
Trust me I've read lots of jab and only respond to them when I'm forced to by the posters constant actions. However, I don't hold grudges like many people seem to. My brothers are much MORE annoying then anyone I've encountered on this website and I LOVE them unconditionally.

Therefore, can just have PEACE PLEASE?

If you must fight, take it to email.

When adults fight they should do it with out the kids present.

And whitebuffalo should be listened to and respected more. She has more patience than I do that's for sure.

Devil, I'm not defending shaolin but what IS your linme between fantasy and reality.

I have smething to say on this matter if you don't mind. And all the blinding and binding coming from you is not worth the space you used to make those pronouncements.
I have been visiting this site for nearly a year now. I have seen many people come and go. I joined only to comment on this conversation, and believe me, I have seen much go on here before now that I held back from commenting about because it was obvious to me they were just children.
However, this has now accelerated past being amusing and is now teetering on the brink of insanity.
Before RookDygin and ShinigamiO (and DCinAZ) came along, I was wondering how much longer this site would last. I know I'm not the only one who thought that.
First came Whitebuffalo, who should be shown much more respect than what you, and those standing with you, are willing to give. She is the only one here with any authority that I can see. Before that, it was a constant power struggle between the bad and the worst. Everyone else just concentrated on helping others.
Just when it seemed that things had finally reached a point where people felt safe to return and continue their good work, a new threat began to emerge.
Don't get me wrong AnandaHya, at times you seem quite lucid, and dare I say, comprehendable. Then somewhere you seem to go off track, your attitude becomes rebellious and you spend much too time trying to discredit others. I don't see how that helps anyone but yourself. You seem to enjoy starting conflicts. You are not as nice as you would like others to think you are. Plus you have a difficult time staying on topic. You are not the victim of attacks by others, at least from what I've seen, and I've been watching you since your very first day.
Shaolin,
I've read your stories and moved past them. I have no time to waste on bullies, no matter their education. You seem to want a power that is no one's to claim. All of your stomping and insults aside, you still have no redeeming qualities, that I can see, that would compel anyone to give you a position of authority, no matter your choice of profession. I suppose that is why you came here, thinking psychics must be pushovers and hoping to assume a position of authority. But, you seem to have hit a roadblock. Your claim of how you came into existance is just more fantasy than I can take, so I'll take my leave now. I won't return to see what your response to my comments are, and I doubt if I'll return to this site at all. I've seen too much already, thank you.
Good bye.

Shaolin, since your offline, I need to say that your method of talking to these people is horrid, and would NEVER work. To most people, you just randomly come here, say your a void being and anyone who debates with you you end up binding them. Is anyone EVER going to listen to you like that? You could atleast build up respect and everything, but instead you expect them to just fall in line. NOT going to happen. You need to reform your ways of talking to people... No offense, just an opinion...

Shaolin,

M comment concerning the 'voting up' of your posts was not made merely because they were voted up... I was here... On site... We were posted back and forth in a fairly speedy conversation as far as posting on a site like this allows and yet before I had a chance to see/read through your replies...BANG... They were voted up to support your view... And now I go back over them and it seems as if many of the other members here do not agree with the points you were trying to make.

Now you say... And I'll quote you directing... Not just part of the statment but the whole thing...

"Circular logic is a useful tool when you explain the same things over and over again and they are not understood."

We have a very different idea of what circular logic is then, because the way I see it circular logic is only used in an attempt to cover ignorance... Or using twisted 'words and meanings' to prove an untruth...

(a great example can be found in the movie Idiocracy... "[cabinet has been debating putting water on the plants instead of Brawndo]
Pvt. Joe Bowers: What *are* these electrolytes? Do you even know?
Secretary of State: They're... What they use to make Brawndo!
Pvt. Joe Bowers: But *why* do they use them to make Brawndo?
Secretary of Defense: [raises hand after a pause] Because Brawndo's got electrolytes."

That movie conversation goes on, but it is a wonderful example of circular logic... And how it doesn't really prove anything. It definitely does not make concepts easier to understand.

As far as your type of intervention not effecting anyone... If you can even do what you claim... Did you ever think you are taking away learning opportunities from the people...opportunities, that while uncomfortable, allow us as individuals to learn and grow... With out that chance the 'enlightenment' that so many believe in can not happen... Unchallenged minds remain closed... And closed minds do not grow, develop and accept new things.

Stop with the veiled threats... "DC, you're heading for trouble my friend. I think we've all had enough of you twisting peoples words around. I know you got the real meaning of what was said, and just play dumb. Well, all of that is called trolling, which is bannable here."

You do not have the power to BAN...BIND...BLIND or anything resembling such things. At least not that I've seen any sort of proof of. Perhaps you should heed your own words, because threats are included in the list of offenses that one can be banned for.

I don't shout, I don't yell and I do not back off when I know I'm right and innocents may be hurt.

Respectfully,

Rook

No Godzilla,
It means he's EARNED the respect he has from the members of this site.
One more time, just to get past your massive ego, he EARNED the respect. It doesn't come because you demand it, so just lay off the good folks, Godzilla, you're starting to look paranoid.

Time for me to step in here.

Shaolin I believe in all honesty that you are trying to help but please lay off of Rook. He is a highly respected poster and a very good man.

You may disagree with some of his posts but please refrain from calling him juvenile.

He is very respectful and talented, and I also look up to him.

So please be less harsh on your posts towards him.

Thank you and have a good night.

I am going to sleep.

One more thing for now. Rook, if my psots are voted up it's someones opinion I stated something helpful. You hold such a strong belief in helping others, yet you have such an arrogant opinion about someone voting my posts up before YOU read them. And I am well aware you voted them back down because of that belief. Such behavior is juvenile and disrespectful.

Circular logic is a useful tool when you explain the same things over and over again and they are not understood. As for the overtures, I don't let others suffer because of the "i don't have a right" bit. If someone needs help, regardless of the time at which the problem was reported, I help them. I do what I do in such a way that does not inhibit them, so the shield really has nothing to do with what they want. That may seem absurd, but kick it around a bit, you'll understand, because I'm not hurting them, or even effecting them at all, except trowing nuisances out of their lives.

Shoalin,

I've kicked around for along while. I've learned a thing or two... About myself and about life as well as a few of the 'secrets' of the 'other side' if you will. I have also learned not to be arrogant or self serving with my given abilities.

You arrived 'on site' and with a mixture of circular logic and ominous overtures have tried to convince the members here that you are... Well what you say you are...

You now offer help on 'stories' where to O/P hasn't posted an update for awhile which makes me wonder what you are trying to 'prove' and to whom... And I couldn't help but notice that someone seems to be following you around to 'up your Karma' because a couple of your last posts seemed to 'prove' your powers and got vetoed up before I could even read them... I wish I had more time, but my Family duties call and I must see to them... I will check back, rest assured on that...

Respectfully,

Rook

I noticed a couple things:

A couple fear and anger spawned Shadow beings
Pretty low power demons

Rook, you should also note that beings can retract their presence, and their residual energy will decay quickly if they aren't very strong, quickly as in within an hour at most. However, I didn't look at the current time at which I posted, I looked then, in the past, and in the future, and found that they would come and go, have their fun and leave. They weren't threats to their beings except for being able to subtly influence their thoughts, which is dangerous in it's own right if they can't shield.

I understand there are many, many different shields... And many different ways of using them...

I however, and this is my opinion, I however seek permission to help before giving it... It is my way or ensuring they want it, for they may not... They may wish... Well whatever they wish... It is not for me to decide what is right or wrong for others... Not on any level...

Respectfully,

Rook

Shaolin,

Then you sir had access to way more information than was posted in the O/P 'story'.

I read nothing... Nor felt anything about it that gave me pause to advise anything more than I did.

We should help, when and where we can... And there are times when aid will be reactive rather than proactive... I neither saw, nor felt anything to indicate this was one of those times...

Respectfully,

Rook

I really think I should mention this. Rook, people don't lose free will when they are shielded, whoever makes that happen needs to not shield until they can learn to do it without that side effect. Shields keep things out, they don't keep things in. I also know that anyone who can tell who a certain spirit being is can also shield against them, and no one else, and there's even a shield that specifically protects against harmful things.

Rook in a situation like this where things can get dangerous fast, it's only right to shield them, whether they want it or not. Some don't realize or don't care about the danger they could be in or are in. I also don't wait the time it would take to ask them whether they want it or not, but they can tell me to take them off at any time once there's no danger.It's my job as a guardian to make sure others misjudgements don't lead to their harm. In any case that's not dangerous I would ask them if they wanted shields up or not. As for the beings causing them trouble, they have no right to do so, so being bound is a no ifs ands or butts about it.

lexi_so_flyy,

Could you please give us an update as to what is going on?

Shoalin,

Wanting to help people is a grand thing... Doing things with out their permission and/or knowledge however takes away their 'free will'.

By taking that away from an individual the cycle of learning / personal growth and choice is broken and any good that may have been 'done' by your 'intervention' is counter acted by the loss of 'free will'.

Respectfully,

Rook

I've bound every etheric and astral being connected to this stuff. If this continues, email me, please, though I'm confident it won't. I will place a shield around your family for now.

These might help you:

1. "Fear motivates our ego, and blocks our channel to our Divine Self. The darkness and light all come from the same source, and that source resides in us. To give you an example, this experience was how I learnt about Love and Acceptance. Many years ago I was at a good friends place having an astrological reading from her. I then did some spiritual healing on her, as this was happening I felt a presence in the room sitting in an empty chair. My friend also felt the Being but did not know who it was. By the time I got home, back to my house I was literally crawling in the door, all the way home I had felt weaker and weaker. I had to go straight to bed and that night I had the experience of an energy trying to attack me, and a dream of a Being making young girls into zombies. The next day I rang a friend and she said there were beings who did this, of course I became even more fearful. That night I prayed for help, and as I went to bed I became aware of great Amethyst points coming up all around me in the Etheric, for protection. Then I felt the Being coming in, attempting to draw all my energy and keep me in a state of fear. I kept sending it Love and Light but this did nothing, then a voice within me asked "What does God do?" I answered "Loves and Accepts". It immediately went away and has not returned, I did not have to think it needed Love or Light, in the greater reality it already is that. All I had to do was accept it as it is, no judgment, this wonderful gift is the secret to all healing and protection. I have used this formula from then on with one hundred percent success."

2. "The Kryahgenetics Egg is a wonderful cosmic tool that can be used both as a protective protocol and also as a quarantine device. To use as a protective mechanism, put yourself in a Kryahgenetics Egg (or have the egg come to you) and have DNA helix running down the core of your body. When you feel comfortable, tell the egg to "Turn ON" and it will immediately start sucking all the debris out of your body, and when it hits the shell it will be instantly neutralized. With each breath, release debris until you feel calm and stable. You can also use Kryahgenetics Eggs to protect pets, houses, cars, airplanes, etc. I have put eggs around planes I was traveling in and stopped turbulence... On many, many occasions. (I know it kind of freaked the pilot out because they forewarned the passengers of serious "bumps" and made the stewardesses stop their services and sit town until it was over... So I double egged the plane and it never happened!) "

3. Possibly also this:
Http://www.hootenization.com/GhostBuster.html
Please note that often, cleansing reactions will be experienced during which the person fells sick as the demon tries to hold on.

You must strengthen your mind and face your fears. Find what way works best for you to do this. Build your self confidence and surround yourself with people who love you. Knowledge and love are the two things that keep me safe, Depending on what type of person you are is the type of protection that will work best for you. If you are visual, Rook's sounds like a good idea. If you are audio, play some religious music (you're choice of religion as long as YOU have faith in its words). If your an empath, then surrounding yourself with love should work.

The darkness only threatens to hurt you and others, it has no real power but words to try and convince you to do and say things that will hurt you or your love ones to try and isolate you. Don't let it win, you're stronger than that, Reclaim your life.

All I know what to do in these cases:
-Think positive
-Try to fight back
- DO NOT GET AN EXORCISM (depending how bad)
-have lots of things that remind you of God
-Make a shield (OF LIGHT!)
-GO TO CHURCH OFTEN! (well not EVERY SINGLE DAY but every sunday if you can)
-study more about demons (I should too 😐)

Good Luck.

oooooooh! Sry I spelt your namee wrong...*Lexi (: hehehe...

It is impossible to become possessed on a constant basis. I believe that you are just picking up on negative energies bought upon by the environment in which you live😐 You may have empathic abilities.

No you should not get an exorcism, you should get someone who isn't easily prone to superstition and who can help you clean your area and put up psychic shielding.

By the mean time, try not to only focus your mind on bad thoughts. When they come, focus on more positive things. You can also try removing yourself from the area for awhile. You know like taking a walk outside at times when the pressure is too much.

Rook has also given good advice here.

I think that people are too quick to run for exorcist where they can deal with their problems on a spiritual and logical basis.

lexi_so_flyy,

I've read both of your experiences and it sounds as if your going through some rough times. Before seking an exorcism try some things for yourself and your room at the house your are living at.

For yourself, Shield yourself with a white light... Can be any shape you want, picture it surrounding you and believe that nothing negitive can get through it.

For your room, cleanse it... Find yourself some alone time, sit in the middle of your room. Light a white Candle and say a prayer... Or even use the Lord'S Prayer. Then picture the flame of the candle expanding, filling the room, 'burning out' all darkness and negitive energies. Fill your room with positive thoughts. Picture this 'flame' anchored and Permanente, do this with your personal shield as well.

Keep us posted as to what is happening. Sending Prayers to you, wishing you the best. If you need better 'instructions' please feel free to ask...

Respectfully,

Rook

Lexi,

Yes I think you should get an exorcism, but remember that if you don't fill your heart and body with light they will come back with 6 of their friends. You have to have a protective shield around you. YOu have to remember that God loves you no matter what and never lose faith. That faith is like a white light that can grow in your heart and expand outward to cast out darkness from your body. You will still have to face trials in you life to burn off the bad dark karmic threads but eventually you will have a milky white energy body that can heal those around you and chase away their darkness in your presence. I'm currently reading about Falun Gong. I'm christain with Buddhist roots. The spirit of my dead grandfather taught me many of the things the person on this site talks about. I'm only on page 45 since I started yesterday, but feel free to email me questions. You can post them and others might be able to help too.

Http://www.falundafa.org/eng/howtolearn.html

I think it depends on your past life experience which path works best for you. I will keep you and your family in my prayers.

Peace light and love to all

(vacation cut short, sigh)