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The first experience happened one night when I was laying in bed awake with my eyes closed. After a while of contemplation I see a door, I open my eyes. I close my eyes again, my eyes and upper cheeks start twitching and while this is happening it appears that I am moving through space constantly forward never stopping. At one point I see faint objects like planets, hands and at one point monsters to which seems so real that I open my eyes and say, wow.

As time went on (weeks-months) I tried to replicated this experienced then one night I managed to arrive into this state of mind. This time I tried to picture a woman I really liked (just the face). Harder and harder trying to put her face together in my mind, at one point I start to move through a portal with blue irregular squares, then involuntarily but able to control like breathing my chin sticks up exposing my neck, my chest sticks out, my muscles in my arms and torso tighten, I unintentionally become aroused, I then feel an overwhelming feeling, like anxiety and the feeling that something is going to be ripped out of me in the chest area. At this point I get such a feeling that it really felt that I had made a connection with this woman, and as this is happening I get a strong urge to say something and I did. I got so overwhelmed that I had to stop.

I would really appreciate it if someone with experience can tell me what this all means.

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whitebuffalo (guest)
 
14 years ago (2011-02-06)
Exactly, NaturalScience *nodding*.
Which is why in THIS instance, I am NOT going for the Succubus theory, and sticking with my "natural" theory.
As I said, I am NO expert, but what I witnessed seemed to point to the same "response", and it appeared to BE a natural human sexual response.
HUMAN.
No need to jump on the Sex Demon bandwagon. It was NOT present.
In my opinion.
And, you are welcome. I would have hated for someone to have thought I DID mean "levitation". I truly appreciated that.
Thank you.
NaturalScience (229 posts)
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14 years ago (2011-02-06)
thanks whitebuffalo for explaining. This arching of the body happens in ecstatic situations, it is well known in sexuality but not bound only to this setting. People in sexual abstinent situation can get it even as a "disorder". In prude 19th century many women, mainly from strong emotions, sometimes also strong smells, got "fits" with altering of consciousness and this arching, which were thought first to be epileptical, then subsumed to the so-called diagnosis of "Hysteria".
whitebuffalo (guest)
 
14 years ago (2011-02-05)
NO. This man did NOT "levitate". I apologise for leaving that impression. No, not at all.
It was more of an "arch". He remained on the mat on the floor, and his torso arched, as if in stretching. His hands and forearms stayed on the mat, his legs and heels did as well.
Please forgive my not wording that more clearly. And thank you for pointing that out.
Thank you.
NaturalScience (229 posts)
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14 years ago (2011-02-05)
I read your observation about someone astral traveling in your presence Whitebuffalo. You say the body of the person lifted off ground (levitation) at the moment the soul went out to travel? Whow! This is the first witness of a levitation phenomenon I met with in the "real world" i.e. Not in books. I know some Catholic saints have been seen levitating while being in trance from prayer, and in India this phenomenon is known too, there it even seems to be more frequent than in Europe, probably due to Yogic knowledge of some part of Hindu population.
Ever seen something similar again?

Highroller, you must have been really fond of that woman, and / or she could have been near to you in a past life. Otherwise it would not have been possible that trying to imagine her face could "tear something out of your chest" which means, tear your heart chakra open in this intense way.

But more important is: I got to say I congratulate you for the easy and ideology-free way you come to astral travel.

You just look into the blackness behind your closed eyes. No circus acrobatics of the Hatha or Kriya Yoga kind, no forceful breath techniques, no thought-drowning repetition of mantras, no purposeful and thus painstaking visualization of some sacred image which some Guru told you to concentrate on.
Do keep with this simple method and never think you are inferior to such ones who preach on the power of all those things I mentioned above. I made this mistake and thus can warn you from the probable consequences.
For if you believe ideology-bound paths to be superior and thus have yourself bound to some of them, into which then your astral traveling method and also the images seen on the travels are expected to fit, you will no longer have easy way.

On the contrary, you will have years or even decades of unsuccessful efforts and constant humiliations before you and at the end perhaps you will think God wills it not that you make your soul fly, or even that it was an evil thing that your soul could fly when you still did NOT cling to the ideology chosen.
But this would be all just delusions and the real explanation for your failure would lie in the Hindu teaching that "one should not try to do the Karma of someone else but only do one's own karma."

You've been given the possibility to astral travel without any dogma behind, and without a guru or shaman teaching you. Thus do so and tell the world your results. I recommend Rashidah to you. She too is a "natural soul flyer".
Callie (68 posts)
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14 years ago (2011-02-05)
No -- that was it actually, exactly.:D That not every sensation - even those that seem to be brought about by the presence of an entity or thinking on an individual - are necessarily an entity who could be ID'ed as incubus/succubus. They do exist, but they're not always why a certain something happens in the Astral/dreamstate. So, yes, that was what I was asking.:)
whitebuffalo (guest)
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14 years ago (2011-02-05)
Whew. I HAVE to be honest. I have been staring at a word in my last comment and PRAYING it was "replaced" with the right word by whomever read it. What I wrote was "inhabitants" (I in NO WAY meant to imply you were possessed. What I MEANT to say was "inhibitions". Sorry about that, and ANY confusion that may have caused).
Callie? How you described your thoughts on Incubi and Succubi used to be EXACTLY what I thought. Honestly. I would not lie to you. I simply figured it was normal human sex drive and the charkas being open as I had NEVER heard of that particular charka (my mentor was a bit of a prude on SOME things).
As the result of encountering my own incubus, and the trial of "getting rid of it", I can no longer say that.
However, that is just MY opinion on the matter.
But this was NOT a Succubus. She was NOT.

This was a straight up "virgin voyage" into Astral Projection. The inexperienced sometimes STOP trying because of the straight up PHYSICAL reaction TO the travel.
I was asked to sit by once, as someone attempted to move. I could CLEARLY see the physical body relax, then after speaking to the person (in which he DID respond. VERY intelligently, I might add, which was uncharacteristic OF this man), in a few minutes time, the body began to "spasm".
I freaked. I thought he was going into cardiac arrest (this WAS a "controlled test", so the machines "showed" this not to be true). Once the spasms stopped, it was as if a "wave" was occurring in his body. His head lifted slightly, just as described here, then his chest and so on and so forth. At the point that we THINK (he was not speaking at THAT time) he transitioned, his torso literally lifted up off the mat. VERY visible.
HAD this been a Succubus (and I am STILL very curious, WHAT did you SAY highroller? And did she RESPOND?), straight up sexual activity, not a mere physical arousal, would more than likely have occurred.
I am NOT an expert, by any means, but I had a group (on a different site) of caring, loving, and supportive people who taught me quite a bit. MY experience with the Incubus gave me WAY too many questions. Had it NOT been for them...

Did I explain the right thing, Callie? If not, please laugh, and point out what you really meant. *smiling*
Thank you.
Callie (68 posts)
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14 years ago (2011-02-05)
Well, some astral travelers will see geometric/colored patterns when they travel, some don't, but it's not an uncommon thing.

The thing about the woman's face and your reaction, and the mention of succubi/incubi... I'm curious now of whitebuffalo's take on it, as well as a more expressive one from Ananda:) because to be honest I've always been sort of confused by those sorts of 'astral woo-hoo' encounters myself. I never necessarily assigned the tern 'incubus' to anything I encountered, I just assumed it was an activation of that particular chakra in association with that particular person/entity, but also never discounted that beings like incubus/succubus could exist. (So if you case if you really liked her as in also, ahem ahem wink wink, LIKED her;) there are lines from your sacral charka as well as your heart from you to her.)

I got the impression though that incubi/succubi solely came to YOU - ie if you were focused on a particular person they wouldn't necessarily be able to 'take their face'... But I never really looked too deeply into it, it's not like I'm chased around by incubi all night;)
AnandaHya (guest)
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14 years ago (2011-02-02)
high roller:

My hypothesis would be shock of part of your conciousness leaving your body.

I've been reading a lot of the stories and haven't really found anyone who experience astral projection as I do so I don't know what that means.

Anyway only part of my conciousness leaves my body and converses with the astral beings on various levels. I can see part of myself talking to others in the spirit realm and part of myself still functioning (admitedly not very well but I feed the kids, clean the house, teach high school science, drive, etc) in the waking world.

I label it super-over-multi-tasking. I have a tendency of doing this when I have problem I can't figure out and really need help with: such the best way to open a discussion with a kid who I suspect is homeless because they ran away from an abusive family or who I should contact with my suspicions or whether or not the world is headed for the next world war versus unbinding the Earth to allow humans to actually develop the technology for space travel (current discussion occuring, we'll see the results within the next decade probably)

I think anyone who is able to see the things you have describe has the potential to develop great abilities if their intetions and motivations are pure for cultivation. The first step to any spiritual path that has helpers and guides that will lead you towards light is the desire to help others. The ability to look beyond yourself and see what place and role you are meant to play in this world.

Best wishes on your journey,

AnandaHya

Did that make any sense? I'll reword it if it doesn't, still multi tasking sorry.
whitebuffalo (guest)
 
14 years ago (2011-02-02)
That is the "shift". When your physical body "releases" its inhabitants. It is a physical SHOW that your core (or "heart") is in it.
highrollerx00 (1 stories) (1 posts)
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14 years ago (2011-02-02)
Thanks for the information whitebuffalo & AnandaHya but can you explain why involuntarily my chest and chin stuck up, and why my muscles in my arms and torso tighten.
whitebuffalo (guest)
 
14 years ago (2011-02-02)
I misread some of AnandaHya's comment and need to apologise. She said perhaps a (paraphrased) succubus sensed your link and went for you.
STILL not the way it works, but I answered in a different way as I read it wrong. Sorry.
whitebuffalo (guest)
 
14 years ago (2011-02-02)
I need to respectfully disagree with AnandaHya on this.
First, she did not become a succubus (female entities of such caliber are termed a succubus and males are incubus) because you concentrated on her facial features. That is NOT how that all works. At ALL.
But we will not get into that here.
What I do think MAY have happened was that you were concentrating SO HARD on this experience, that your feelings may or may not have presented themselves in a very physical way.
That is absolutely NATURAL. No worries there.
The anxiety that you felt MAY have been in a foreshadowing of the confusion that arrived at your arousal. I mean, here... Let me take YOU out of this for a sec. OK?
For ME: If I were to concentrate on someone so fully that I could even see the tiniest of wrinkles at the corner of their eyes (did YOU concentrate THAT hard?) and then began that "slow tingle" that seems to accompany such experiences, my body would probably replace the "excitement" of the act with straight up HUMAN excitement.
*shrug*
It happens.
To lots of people just beginning in this kind of adventure, if they are HONEST about it.
You did nothing wrong.
It is just your mind and your body trying to "come together" to create the full experience. As you "secretly" liked this woman... Your body responded the way normal people respond when the object of their affection in standing right in front of them.
Especially in the horizontal position.
Thank you.
AnandaHya (guest)
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14 years ago (2011-02-01)
umm have you spoke to the woman?

Either you made a link with her (which would be bad if you didn't get her permission first, kind of like spiritual rape in my book, but that is the personal moral code I hold myself to so YOU don't have to follow it, your spirit guide might give you a different set of rules)

Or a spirit is messing with you and you made a link with it while it was using her image to seduce you. Incubus is the term, research the word and decide for yourself what you want to do from there.

Post updates and I'm sure others will offer their explanations too. Remember these are all opinions we only get part of the story.

two paragraph is not a lot to base any sort of analyze of a situation, but from the sound of it you have an afinity for Out of body experiences (there is a lot on the site about them and AnneV's articles outline suggestions on how to develop the skill. Plus others might have suggestions)

I would still find out if the lady you were meditating on felt anything.

Most Buddhist monks tell their disciples not to meditate on people because it increases your desire for the person and can become an unhealthy obsession that prevents you from developing along the spiritual path and increase of your spiritual awakening and powers. (note that is from a dead Buddhist monk spirit wandering by watching me type this)

Anyways, trust yourself and look at the voices and comments as advice and suggestions for you to consider.

Peace, light and love

AnandaHya

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