Comments for Powers To Control The Elements: Page 3

DC, both angels and demons watch and wait to see our actions.

If you do not like my vision then please share yours.

If you allow hatred into your heart, then you will see evil every where.

I pray one day the cloud will be lifted from your eyes and your heart and you see clearly what your words and actions do to others.

By your own words may you be judged, for you bear false witness of me. I bring you thusly before the throne of God who can see into both our hearts and will let Him judge us it that is your wish.

I do as my teachers taught me and again offer the olive branch and ask for peace and understanding. I ask that you speak your words out of love and not fear.

Ananda,
I have no problem with dreams of what the future can bring. The problem I have is with people who encourage others to buy into the fantasy of unrealistic abilities or powers. When you show signs of being a responsible adult, I'll back off, but when you continue to jump around trying to discredit other adults on this site it only shows me you are not here to help others. You are only here to help yourself. I tried to get you involved and you decided it wasn't for you. You then proclaimed you were adopting this site and you were here to protect the young ones from those of us who'd been here working to bring sanity and peace back from the brink. I really don't care to hear what your ideas for the future of humanity are any longer, it's plain to see you are unwilling to work alongside those who once opened their arms to welcome you in, only to have you shove them away. You obviously have your own agenda, and you've shown nothing but disdain for the rest of us so just drop the subject. There will always be someone here watching and waiting. Always. 😐

dc I'm sorry you believe that dreaming of the future cheapens the present.

One should hot compare abilities and state that one is better than another. Does the eye tell the mouth that there is no need for it?

I think all people who open their eyes, hearts and minds to the bueaty of the Divine around them are trully blessed and can move forward into the future with the knowledge that great things are in store for them and their life. Therefore, I believe all people with God given talents are special and unique in their own right and need not be "cheapen" by any present or future dreams. Do NOT project your thoughts on me and claim them to be mine.

Peace, truth and love seem like forgein words to some, but I wish you would learn them. It would make the PRESENT world a better place.

Ananda, There you go leaving the backdoor open again. "though with technological enhancements I'm sure personal flight is possible." This has become such common practice with you that you either can't help yourself or, as I believe, it is a purposeful act. I think it's both really. So here I am, Ananda, just like every other night, standing gaurd against those who would incourage unrealistic fantasies. I just don't get it. Being psychic is pretty damn special. Then someone like you comes along and makes what psychics do seem trivial in comparison to your dreams of the future and what it could bring. You've tried to make what they already are able to do seem small. I'm sorry you see things as only what they could be and not for how great and wonderful they are already. You cheapen what they do. And that sucks.

i guess I come off offensive since a lot of people seem offended. I'll just agree to let the past be in the past and hopefully move forward. No one want people jumping off buildings with the mistaken impression that they will "fly" I meant astrally, though with technological enhancements I'm sure personal flight is possible. They had that going on in the 60s but the developers did not see it as a cost benefit versus how many people got hurt testing out the design. If someone wanted to develop the technology, with the proper research and study, I'm sure they can develop something in 20 or so years.

Most of my post were directed only at a couple posters, but we should have taken the discussion to email. I have learned that lesson and will strive to remember it in the future. To those who I unintentionally offended, I'm sorry. I was really just posting in response to a couple who have been commenting and criticizing my post since the begining.

I just wanted clarification on some points. Now that I have them. I thank those who have helped. Good nit. And hopefully the morning will bring peace and understanding that can be used to build knowledge and wisdom for future generations.

AnandaHya - I read your profile and have a question, if you don't mind. You said " (this is for my kids and will include the basics like what to expect and how to defend oneself and proper respect for all beings, opening gates, fly/ OBE, etc) " When you said "fly" do you mean literally fly? Are you saying that you can fly and you are going to teach your children to fly?

You don't have any stories posted on here, so I have to ask this question on this story and for that, Jezze, I'm sorry.

You know what I think may have happened here?
I got excited, and spoke to someone with a bit of familiarity that I perhaps should not have (for that I have privately and am now publicly apologizing). I should not have taken for granted that the tone in which I wrote would have been carried over to the reader. Please forgive my ignorance for feeling a bit comfortable here and thinking we may all have gotten over the whole chaos that was here the last time I was free to comment.

I think we all need to read through these comments that we are getting so fired up about. I mean, really read them.
I find it truly amazing that we seem to be arguing over an issue that we seem to agree on.
Yeah. Did you read that right? Read it again, then. Just to be sure.
The argument seems to BE that we agree, but approach all situations in different ways.
Those of you who have helped warm up this heated debate, think on this. These people are going tooth and nail for YOU, and what have I seen YOU kind folk do? Quietly sit aside and e-mail one another with the whole "did you see what..." little private chats.
I hope you are all enjoying this. You have a group of people frustrated over HOW to reach you as YOU are closing all doors with close-mindedness.
Congratulations.
Let us all pick up the pieces again, and let conversations of the past remain there.
Thank you.

Thank you sparky, and Rashidah for your understanding. I really appreciate that. 😊 Happy New Year and best wishes for 2011 to both of you and of course all the other members as well. ❤

Ananda, I am not attacking you and anyone who knows me knows that it is not in my nature to intentionally hurt people to make myself feel better. All I am trying to do is make sense of your comments and understand your intentions better.

Well said Rook.

You are so awesome ❤

Cosmogal

It is a shame that ananda misread your post. I believe that she does that on purpose 😐

Sigh we really tried to help this woman, but she seems to know better than us.

Wow, this conversation warped... A LOT. Anyways, I have no interest in joining this but I have to say, cosmogal has a point. Happy New Year~

WB,

I'll quote from you, then channel a Christmas Special and climb on my soap box and I hope I do not offend anyone in the process...

"These Innocents are not of the Fairy Tale variety. They do not bounce."

That's right, we keep telling them they are not Bumbles...

(Climbing on Soap Box):

Some of us say it nicer than others but the bottom line is there is a crowd that comes here talking about abilities that are fantastic but no one states if they are from dreams or 'real life' and the older more experienced people here try and point theses things out and get ganged up on with people saying things like 'you don't believe', or 'you don't understand.' Or even 'why are you here on this site.' Or they offer excuses like... 'Well a Spirit told me so I don't have to prove it' or someone conveniently logs in for 1 post with a link to a half baked web site that we are supposed to believe is real...

I for one will stand for TRUTH and if by being HONEST I upset those that wish to mislead these young adults then so be it, I will always do my best to HELP those in need, if I don't know an answer I'll say that then do my best to find the answer, the TRUE answer but I CAN NOT, WILL NOT let BS be spread as truth so that people may be misled and possibly hurt themselves.

(Climbs off Soap Box)

Respectfully,

Rook

Ananda- No one is attacking you... We're just extremely confused with what you're saying, because honestly, it sounds jumbled up.
Take it one step at a time...

Au Revior. 😐 😕 ❤

cosmogirl I suggest they send me an email after one or more of the poster suggested that I do so and keep the topic stream on track and not to be off the original posters story. If you want to email you I will be frank and honest with you and tell you what it is that is necessary to accomplish their goals. I believe any thing is possible, but most don't want to bother learning or devoting the time and energy needed to acheive their stated goals. If you were told you need to give up your human body to save your best friends life, would you do it?

I am far from "self righteous" I merely speak with confidence that my words will stand by themselves and that the people who need to hear them will. I have no issue with people on this site who really want to learn and help others.

But I was merely trying to find help with some personal problems and support for some dreams that might help humanity by making the spiritual realm less of a "mystery" and more of a "science"

I joined the site because I started see ghosts (which is fine I see them off and on my whole life) But the difference is they begin telling me detailed stories and requested specific things and actions. I thought perhaps I could find help.

I give credit some have emailed me and offered aid and support. But read the comments I get on this page and asked yourself. Hmmmmmm, her grandfather just died, I wonder if these people really care aobut helping people or just want to make themselves feel better by attacking someone.

Fine I'll be your scapegoat, go ahead and tar and feather me in your minds and hearts. But all I wanted was help and to help others.

Ananda, I find it funny that you see some of us as selfrighteous and believe that we think we know better and have all the answers because I can say the same thing about you. I am not closed minded and I do not dismiss any psychic ability. In fact that is why I joined this site, to learn more about it. I become concerned when you say anything is possible and for them to send you an email because you can help them achieve these goals. You said a couple of posts ago that you doubt anything said on this site can influence them anymore than a video game. That statement couldn't be more false. If you watch the news there are so many cases of teenagers being influenced by the internet every day. So yes being older does come with responsibility and since this site does have a lot of young members it is best to keep them grounded and out of harms way. I don't doubt that most of these members have psychic ability and are confused and anxious to learn more about them. If these stories are posted on an open forum such as this they should be discussed openly.

Ananda

The physical and astral bodies are completely different.

The physical body has many limits.

I am sorry. I will then check out your profile to see if my questions were answered. I do not understand the reply... I said I was not trying to wage a war.
I just asked for a bit of clarification. Sorry I was not here for the conversation that discussed those things. My bad.
I was asking YOU to explain. I did not think I was doing something wrong THERE.
But thanks anyway.

first off I doubt anything said on this site will give the teenagers anymore ideas then what they already find and play in video games and the like. I believe that many of the abilities talked about might be possible, but I don't know where any of my comments encourage teenagers to take foolish risks. My question is if it is possible in the astral, how much is it possible in the physical world to do?

Personally I believe people have the ability to heal and wound others through words, actions, and spirit energy both in the astral and the physical realms.

DC a threat? Seriously? I thought I was talking to mature intelligent adults.

If any of you bothered to read my profile you'd be more understanding, but since your wisdom so far out strips mine and your compassion is so far in advance that you don't need any words that merely ask that you find out the CAUSE of the dreams that some put forth before jumping up and ripping them apart.

Then live with your self righteousness and don't listen to simple words trying to state a differing opinion or view.

I stated earlier it takes a village to raise a child and all different views and teaching styles are sometimes need. INSTEAD of working together, I get arguement and disenssion and attacks. (reread the comments and figure it out yourself) I merely tried to keep the peace and still be truthful to my beliefs.

The statement was that not everyone has had "ideal childhoods" perhaps you should learn about what makes them tick before dosing them with your brand of "honesty"

Thank you all. I truly appreciate it. It does feel... I am back. 😆

When re-reading my comment to you, AnandaHya, I see that some of it COULD be misconstrued as a challenge. Please, rest easy. I am not trying to start, or keep a war rolling, if that is what you think. I am simply wondering what YOUR beliefs are.
Thank you.

Welcome back WB! I hope you enjoyed the holidays and Happy New Year. 😊 After reading through these comments, I too have concerns about the meaning behind your posts Ananda. As others have said you seem to encourage fantasies and feed into our young posters ideas of having "super powers". There have been countless times I have read one of your posts stating something as fact and then a few posts later say Oh... Well that was just my opinion and I didn't mean it that way. There is a lot of contradiction and randomness that throws a lot of us for a loop. If you post what you mean, and mean what you post things will probably be a lot less confusing.

Welcome back WhiteBuffalo.

I have also missed your posts dear on this site ❤

That's quite alright. We've kept the light on for you. Nice to see your no worse for the wear, let me just repair that rip in the cape real quicklike.

I have to say, seeing WhiteBuffalo on threads again is like a breath of fresh air.

A big welcome back, WhiteBuffalo!

Au Revior. 😊 ❤ ❤

Thank you, DC. Appreciate it.
Sorry. Life got in the way and my cape got stuck in the door. ' Ripped clean in half.

Thanks for the introduction! I feel so LOVED!

Let me be the first to say "Welcome Back" whitebuffalo. I don't think you and AnandaHya have met, formally I mean. AnandHya meet whitebuffalo, whitebuffalo meet AnandaHya.

Hannah? Dear sweat Hannah, if your voice is still out there on all of this, there ARE persons here who wish to help, advise or lead. Look for the truth. YOU will feel it. Seek out those you trust, listen for the patience in their tone as YOU perceive it as you read the words. You will KNOW who you need to listen to.
In much respect.

****Screeching to a halt and walking back to the topic at hand****
I am sorry, but...Huh?!?
I am going to have to slide into the vernacular hear and say WTH AnandaHya? The FIRST thing I REALLY "picked up on" was "Pardon me in advance if I sound arrogant..."
Your comments have me... *Frustrated "growl"*
OK. I have been called a "Politician" before while I was standing on a particular rail-post, but, WOW. I have GOT to hand it to you, your balancing ability is Out of the Park and over the score board. I have actually enjoyed perusing them. The amount of selflessly shared knowledge, the seemingly total honesty at every turn, the bowing to the side for a different thought to be pondered~~ very graceful.
Nicely done. Nicely stated. Thank you for your diplomacy. Much appreciated. *nodding*
Mind if I ask a few questions?
YOUR abilities.
Are they physical, or are they rooted in the "Spiritual" or "dream" world? I ask that as it seems like you are telling many people that astounding powers ARE possible (most people would just naturally believe you are talking about the physical world) if you simply believe, and yet you are also saying that you mean this all in the Visually Vague Worlds.
I guess I... I just need a bit of clarification.
Where DC and the Gang were going with that whole "responsibility" thing lies solely on me. While not going into the whole of the details, I was in contact with the family of a young teen who decided he could do fantastical things if he just thought happy, positive thoughts. Problem was, Gravity decided to play along, too. MOST of the..."belief"...came from an Internet site that was extremely good in Role Playing. 'Nuf said on that.
These Innocents are not of the Fairy Tale variety. They do not bounce.
I read what you have found in other religions. Where is YOUR Spirituality? What do YOU believe?
Thank you.

So ananda, do I take that as a threat? Really, when are you going to get the message? All this inuendo you are constantly tossing out there is boring. Get to the point

just one more comment and I will move on to another thread of conversation:

Sometimes the only thing keeping a person from suicide is a dream.

SO just think about it before you rip theirs to threads. Are you really trying to help them or make yourself feel more important because of your wit and abilities?

The world is full of open ended question and statements. Only death is absolute.

Listen Eli, You're young and I don't really want to hurt your feelings, but I can tell you that what you've read in these comments is a whole lot more complicated than you know. So don't get in the middle of something you really don't have any business in. I'm not mad at you ok? But at some point in your life you are going to have to learn how to choose your fights. And BELIEVE ME, this is one you don't want any part of. Just let it go.

Excuse me, new guy is it? If you aren't involved in the original conversation, and you don't know what it's all about, why would you stick your neck out then? If you want some advice, or even if you don't, I suggest you think twice before sticking your neck out. You don't know me and I don't know you, let's not start out on the wrong foot ok? Jumping into something by trying to be a peacemaker probably isn't a good idea. And just for your information and because you are young, I'll let you in on a little bit of common knowledge, NEVER get in the middle when women are having a "discussion". That is some advice you can take to the bank, ask any MAN you know and see if they disagree. I think not.

Please guies, stop it. If you don't have a comment about the story, then don't comment. The comments are not for arguing. How about you guies just email eachother and not publicate your remarks. I can only imagine what ananda feels. Everyone is agenst her. She is only human. She shared her opinion and I'm pretty sure that her intent was not to provoke an argumebt, she was just stating what she felt needed to be said. Yes, she might have said something that made you mad but we all make mistakes. I am 15 and my parents don't know that I am interested in magic. However, they do know that I meditate. Some kids just don't feel confortable telling their parents because the fear of what their reactions might be. So I'm sure that ananda's intentions were not to offend anybody. Come on guies, as I said... Lets just all be friends and respect one another.

PS: I knida agree with ananda. But, that's not the point, the point is that you guies were talking about the guidelines and about being mature, when you guies are the ones arguing in a publicated website were everyone can see. Also the comments werent made to argue!

Love, and light
- Elison:)

Ananda, What would be helpful is if you didn't always leave the backdoor open in your remarks, " Things that are possible in the spirit realm may or may not be possible in the material realm. If those kids wanted to study like monks then they too would be able to do such things." It's the part of your sentence that you leave open that's the main problem. "May or may not" that's where you leave the back door open. Ananda, I am of the FIRM belief that you are completely aware of this practice because you continue doing it on a daily basis. It's a purposeful act that gets by others, but not me. I study everything you say now, you must know this. I don't care if the younger ones cry and moan about that fact either, they should expect it of me and so should you. So if you think you hear a certain "tone" in my words, you do. Quit trying to double talk your way into incouraging their fantasies and all will be fine. But I'm telling you here and now, DOUBLE TALK is, in my eyes, a lie. When you stop that maybe I'll back off, until then...I'm still here. 😐

Ananda, if you go to the bottom of the page, you'll see a link to the Comments Guidelines. I don't think there's anything in them that specificly states that we can't promise to teach someone to fly, but it does ask that comments remain MATURE in their content. Mature=Responsible. We're all wanting to bring a sense of maturity to this site. I don't mind discussing things with kids. I believe we're all in the same book, but on different pages when it comes to the wording of our comments. Sometimes, we adults have a hard time comprehending your posts, do you think these kids can understand them?

I'm sorry that you feel you're being attacked, but for someone so versed in the Bible these words should have some impact: "Am I my brother's keeper?"

I wish you and your family a very happy new year, and congrats on the marriage 😁. Many blessings to your brother!

Ananda- Perhaps you could clearly state, "In the physical sense", or "In the spiritual sense", to clarify, when you state 'what is possible'. Honestly, I too get rather confused with how you word some of your comments.

Also, try giving alternative advice, like "In the spiritual world this may happen, ect, ect...", but give refined logic to the consequences and possibilities of said actions in the physical world.

You can just look at several news reports over the years to see that kids imitate what they are told, or what they see. However, if we bring the space cadets back down to planet Earth, we can promote understanding and possibly prevent a gruesome fatality, because there really is no safeguard for what happens. The best thing we can offer is knowledge.

Au Revior. 😊 ❤

Making that distinction would be very helpful. It may avoid future conflicts. Making that distinction in all your comments would prevent misunderstanding, and prevent you feeling the need to "thumb" down your answers. Say exactly what you mean, whether your are speaking physically or metaphorically, and go step by step.

moonshadow I was just asking if there were some so I could read them and avoid offending the "responsible adults" on the site. I don't mind following established guidelines. I just would like to know what is considered acceptable and expected.

Moonstryke< I meant on the spirit realm not the physical material plane. I admit my mistake for not making the distinction. I'll try to be more careful to make that distinction in the future. Things that are possible in the spirit realm may or may not be possible in the material realm. If those kids wanted to study like monks then they too would be able to do such things. I state on my profile that it takes years to accomplish the tiniest reliable skill in the material realm but the spiritual realm is another story.

I was told that "this site was not just for the youth", but now I am told that my post should keep in mind "impressionable young minds" SO should I post as if talking to adults and my peers or should I thumb it down for the "youth"?

Murder and suicide are big topics that have many different variables and both of which I would prefer didn't exist in the world. What do you think is the reason they exist and how can they be prevented?

Personally my expericence with thoughts of suicide is that the dark shadows whispering in my mind that I'm worthless, useless, have no purpose, unloved, dirty, unclean, unlovable and other negative emotions. My personal answer was to turn to GOd and find out my personal reasons for continuing to live and function. I surrounded myself with people who loved me and focused on the bueatiful things in life.

Murder seems to me to be stymed out of intense hatred and despair. I don't know the answer to that one. If anyone has any suggestions, I would appreciate it if they would share.

Energy vampirism where the person is so selfish that they kill the organism sounds like psychic murder to me. (or is it just eating? We kill animals and plants to survive, but it just seems wrong to kill higher organisms. My little voice says people should strive for balance) I think there is a link with "reverse empathy" as well. Sometimes you can take away pain and send back love and acceptance.

AnandaHya - if there is a set of "agreed upon guidelines," who do you believe determines, sets and enforces the guidelines?

And "responsible adults" is very open to individual interpretation. I am having a hard time lately finding "responsible adults" in some of the comments on this site, so that's a tough one for me.

MoonStryke has made very good points about suicides and murders versus the failsafes.

"I believe the world has fail safes to keep people from hurting themselves or others."
So, explain suicide and murders. Do the fail safes fail? Or is it free will at work?
Agreed upon guidelines for being responsible? A responsible person wouldn't even need to ask. Make distinctions between being able to do something astrally, or literally. Most of your posts imply you believe a human can literally fly. Then you get defensive, claiming that some Buddhist monk can do it, so anything is possible. A responsible adult would realize that they are speaking to kids, NOT to Buddhist monks who have dedicated their lives to the study of meditation and the metaphysical. Some random kid cannot do what a monk can do, as the kid is lacking the years and years of study and practice. Tailor your message to your audience.
Why do you feel like people are jumping down your throat? Cause we can't get your attention any other way. All anyone wants is for you to wake up to the fact that words have power, particularly words spoken to impressionable minds desperate for answers.

moonshadow, I did not mean to imply that the parents had foreknowledge or were some how lacking in their abilities to control or guide their children. I'm not sure what it is about people's abilities that seems so frightening that there are so many warnings against their cultivation. I think the world has fail safes to keep people from harming themselves and the rest of the world. If people continually misuse their powers for selfish goals, then I believe eventually they will lose their abilities, and will have to "steal" from others to reach the metaphysical realms.

My real question is if we are to be considered "responsible adults" do you think we should have some agreed upon guidelines?

Rashidah, I think people can fly astrally over Mount Everest, but most can't even levitate in one place in their materal bodies much less over a mountian. I haven't mastered the ablity to fly outside dreams, has anyone here been able to?

However if a person has the knowledge and the built up good karma and the right motivation for wanting to do something like that, don't you think it would be possible?

Why do I feel like people are jumping down my throat? What is the danger in encouraging kids to look for answers inside themselves? Telling them that they should take responsiblity for their decisions? That they are old enough in some countries to get a job and build their families at the age of 13? That they should count their blessings that they have loving adults that allow them the free time to learn and study instead of having to worry about fending for themselves. That they should use their leasure time to learn about things that help humanity as a whole and not just themselves and that the world isn't about "fun and games" but should be about finding joy in doing what is right and beneficial to the world as a whole?

If a kid ask me for advice, the first thing I tell them is to locate the little voice in their heart that tells them the difference between right and wrong. To listen to that voice because that is their connection to the divine. If they listen their powers will increase naturally, they will be shown things selfish people only dream of. If they wanted they will be able to see the angels sing in the dawn or speak with animals.

Those are things I've read in Buddhist scriptures. Those are things I hear my dead ancestors tell me are true. I merely want to add a tiny bit of light in a world that seems so dark and sad at times. I merely want people to see the beuaty and happiness available to them today. If you wish to argue and hate me for it then fine. If you wish to belittle my vision and tell me that I'm leading kids to their destruction. You are allowed your opinion. But I simply want to help people to the best of my abilities.

I kind of agree with you, Shinigame0. However, I think over time some of them do realize it and either try to come up with a solution to stop or maybe embrace it. I've known a few that didn't realize what they were doing or didn't know how to control it. I've also known a couple that were fully aware of it and could care less who they hurt with it. But, again I think it's really up to whoever they are draining whether they allow it to continue, whether they're aware of it on a conscience level or not. Somewhere deep down they are aware that this person makes them feel drained and they are capable of getting away from them. Well, in most circumstances, anyway.

Mel- I think for the most part, they don't realize what they're doing. To me, at least, it almost seems like a form of empathy, or reverse empathy.

I believe there was a poster who talked about this, but I can't recall their name for sure. Apparently, those that do this and are aware can put up 'shields', like the white light bubble, as I've known to call it, to prevent this. They also can redirect negative and positive emotions, much like an empath.
Interesting topic, no?

Au Revior. 😊 ❤

You know I did at one point believe in energy vamps and I still do to a degree, but really I think that an energy vamp can only take however much that person allows them to take.

ME too I think you should keep practicing. I kept practicing and now I can take energy away from people for myself. But I try not to. ❤ 😊 😉 anyway good luck

Moonshadow makes some very good points. The kids that are here looking for answers are more than likely here without their parents knowing every detail of what is discussed here. Their families may not have knowledge to help them, so the young ones come here for knowledge. It's in those young ones best interest that the posters here try to offer real guidance, and take responsibility for the guidance offered. Making bizarre claims, saying anything is possible, then saying that if the kids do something on the "advice" given and it ends badly, it's the kids' own faults is irresponsible in the extreme.
Also Moonshadow, what you said about me an tangents, true. Too true. I blend into the background until I go on a caffeine fueled rampage lol.

Ananda you are encouraging the kids here on foolishness.

You are an adult. Act like one. Yes we should listen to the children but that does not mean that we will allow them to RULE over our minds. There is a line to be drawn you know.

If a kid come in here and say that they can fly over Mount everest, would you believe that too

You probably will.

Happy New Year to everyone.

I had a crazy experience at exactly 12:00 am. I saw a UFO. Plus this morning a friend of mine emailed me a video about a family who also saw a UFO at exactly 12:00 am.

MoonStryke - it's when you go off on a "tangent" that you seem to get attention! 😆

AnandaHya - I've been reading the comments on this story for quite awhile now and haven't had any desire to comment until something you said caught my attention.

I don't know anything about the controlling elements (didn't think it was possible), so I won't comment on that.

I'm new here and this is my first comment, so it may come across as argumentative, and I don't mean it too. It's just my perspective as a parent to this statement you made: "If they are old enough to be on the site and their parents don't teach them not to mess with things... Well if people who KNOW them are unable to do so."

As a parent, heck as a person who sees kids everyday, that statement really isn't quite fair to the parents of the kids on this site. I would bet about 90% of today's kid population (ages 10-18) own electronic devices (phones, laptops, etc.) that provide access to sites like this that their parents have no knowledge of. These kids can access these sites while sitting in the pews at church, on the school bus, in the living room while watching TV with their parents. And unless their parents are monitoring their every move on their phones, laptops, etc., they DON'T know that they're on this site if the kids don't tell them. Therefore, if the parents don't know, they CAN'T offer help and those parents who know about "this kind of thing" can't teach them because they don't know their kids are "experimenting."

I'm not saying that's true for every kid on this site. I'm just saying you shouldn't assume all parents know what their kids are doing when they are "texting" or "chatting."

G'morning and happy New Year bbdeathspark. Working with and respecting elements and nature is a big part of my belief system. It's some of the more, um, outlandish claims I've read on this site I don't believe in. I know I've expressed my thoughts badly here in the past, and for that I apologize. I do have some fairly unusual beliefs, but none that don't make logical sense. It's the seeming lack of logic in thought progression that has had me yelling. I'll try to ask politely for the logic in the future. ❤

HAPPY NEW YEAR! In the spirit of the new year, I suggest we let the old things (strive, controversy, cults, etc) go and focus on the present situations and building up the future generations.

We all have various personalities and teaching styles. I think it is a great and natural thing. Look at the world, it is full of wonderful differences and elements and all is needed for the continuous of life. Its true I tend to have my mind in the clouds, but God has blessed me by surrounding me with wonderful people that keep me grounded and focused on today, instead of always dreaming of tommorrow and what might take place. I think all the elements are needed and all the people and varous teaching styles will benefit the youth better if we work together and accept each other for our differences. We might not always agree with what the other says, but that is the way of the world and everyone needs to deal with it and move forward to look at what we have in common. WHich I think is more than our differences. We want people to learn and be safe while doing so. We want people to be real and stop lying to themselves about what the really are capable of while still dreaming and striving to acheive more.

Peace everyone. I'm going to enjoy one of the most bueatiful things this world has to offer: the joining of two families and cultures in a traditional Cambodian wedding. My little brother is getting MARRIED! OOO

Well done Moon, I couldn't have said it better if I tried. That's EXACTLY the point. I thought you didn't believe in it though.

Elements cannot be controlled. You can work WITH the elements. You cannot CONTROL the elements. Elements are not Play Dough to be manipulated at will. The elements are living entities in their own right. Claiming to control them is disrespectful. You won't progress far until you can respect the natural world, give up this idea of "control" and learn to live harmoniously with nature.

Lets all just let the bad tention go between us. We are all human. Lets just have a good year. 2011 should be a year to remember for the good things not the bad. Please guies, Lets just all be friends here and show each other some respect.

Jezze, I don't know much about psychic abilities but you probably awoke another ability you have by just imagining your powers. Once again I am still training myself to be psychic but I believe that you can strengthen your areokinesis powers by meditation. You can also go out side, roof olr back yard and just feel the air. Imagine being able to control it. You should be able to make it a lot stronger within the next two months. Go to this website. It helps...

Http://pyroar.tripod.com/id13.html

I might be very young but I have learned a lot in the past week... I believe I am starting to experience some clarvoyance:) ... I have been so happy lately.
*smiles*

Happy new years and may god Show you path jezze, good luck!

You go right ahead and do that Ananda, we'll be here when you're done. That's an important thing to know, that we'll still be here. See, no matter what else happens from here on out we'll still be here. I think that in itself shows how serious we are toward the safety of the younger ones who use this site. We'll be here. 😐 😐 😐

ummm DC I'm not sure where you're going with that, but I'm not their parents, nor do I feel insensitive for not taking responsibility from them that they should own up. If they are old enough to be on the site and their parents don't teach them not to mess with things... Well if people who KNOW them are unable to do so, what would you have me do as an individual except ask for them to take responsiblity for themselves and act as adults and mature individuals, who if they trully want to develop their skills need to take the time and drive to study and learn for themselves.

I do believe anything is possible, but did NOT say that everything should be done or would be benificial for the person to pursue. I believe in presenting the facts as best as I know it, showing them the likely consequences and allowing their innate intellegence and self presevation to do the rest.

I was not aware of the "cult" or other things happening before I joined the site. I was just looking for some people to help me understand my own experiences and got a lot of information about things I'm not even sure what to think. I think I'll meditate and pray about it and see if it sheds any light on the situation.

Here's precisely where the problem lies. The unintended consequences that are out there are limitless. The ones we can hopefully stop from taking place are just a shot in the dark, but if we continue to ignore them then we, as adults, are held responsible. Like it or not, that's our lot in life. Pandering to the whims of those who would do harm to themselves, albeit unintentional, is such a dangerous path to walk, why would you choose to do so? You cannot be that insensitive to the feelings of those who love them, can you? Your saying that what they see in a dream is possible to them, no matter what it is. You have children of your own and you can honestly say that you would trust their safety to someone they met over the internet?

All I know is that when I first came to this site, there was a cult like atmosphere. And I'm not talking just little cliques. Some people were afraid to say ANYTHING out of fear that one of these "cult leaders" would send their shadow vampire friends to them to harm them.

My reason for coming to this site is to help these kids who have abilities deal with them on a day to day basis. And to try to talk some sense into the ones who've been flamboozled into believing that they have "supernatural" POWERS.

Ya'll need us adults, face it. We're not going to lie to you and tell you what you WANT to hear. We're not going to coddle you because your own parents won't. But, we will listen and assist you in any way we can, IF you pay attention and seriously want to learn. ❤ 😊

I don't think anyone needs to be "saved" people just need to know what they are suppose to do and be and live to their fullest potential. Its my belief that if everyone trully tried to fulfill their fullest potentional, that empathy and telepathy will be as common as the telephone and TV is today. How long ago was it that TV or telephones made an appearance in the world?

Its just a thought. But the world is interconnected and dependent on all factors for a reason. Everyone's inner universe mirrors aspects of the jointly shared outer universe we all live in. It is found in eastern religous traditions to be able to display those "abilities" you have to first master your "inner universe" through charkas, mudras, mantras, etc.

Pardon me in advance if I sound arrogant, I'm just translating the words from the dream.

I understand that Ananda, but you do have to keep in mind that there are opposing forces.
And that's kind of harsh statement, "you don't take responsibility for anyone's life, but your own." It's true that we're ultimately responsible for our own lives, but to me even though we are all individuals and disconnected we're still from one source of energy. Maybe that's not what you meant, I hope not because though we can't save everyone we should try to save who we can if presented with such a responsibility. Empathy and compassion are important to me.
Anyway, I'm out of here... Got things to do.

mel I'm not asking them to stop what they are doing, they are doing what they think is necessary, its just that I really do believe anything is possible.

responsiblity is solely in their hands. I do NOT take responsiblity for anyone's life but my own.

Dreams should not be interperted literally all the time but I believe people should strive to understand what their unconcious mind is trying to tell them. Dreams are private messages for the invidual and is their responsiblity to interpert and act accordingly.

I've never claimed to be perfect, I don't know where that comment came from, but I just wanted to find some people interested in exploring the spirit realm in a rational method that might have tangible results for aiding the world.

My knowledge comes mostly from study of eastern religions such as Tibetian Buddhism and other vedic text that are just being translated into English. I believe that Eastern Medicine has a more comprehensive research into the spirit aspect of human nature while the western medicine focuses on the material/body aspect of human nature. I just thought perhaps there might be some who would be interested in this site.

I'm personally only on this site because my dead grandfather keeps coming to me in dreams and telling me to tell his story and some other spirits claiming to be dead khmer monks keep telling me thay don't want their knowledge lost. So think whatever you want I just wanted to find those interested in helping me figure out their messages. That is all.

Ananda,
They do just want to make sure everyone is safe... Some on here are a little more gruff than others. That's just their personalities.
And well, I'm not saying that you are...I've talked to you bit through email...but, when you start telling people especially younger people basically that anything is possible red flags start going up for a lot of people, especially considering the site you're on and all. You have children on here wanting so badly to be something/someone special and that opens a door for predators, people on power trips, etc. So, if I may speak for you guys... I think that may be why their defenses are up. If I'm wrong please say so. They just want to make sure you're on the up and up and that you're not going to say something that could get someone hurt.

How do we know that some of the ones that no longer come to this site are even safe? That they haven't done something they thought was alright to try, only to find out too late that they couldn't do it? This is the nightmare I worry about. What happens then? Who would you hold responsible if it were your child?

Well, I do regret my last comment as it was a tad snarky. But the ideas and dreams are not the worry here.

Well, Ananda,
I know that there are healers... But you're trying to see if you can help people through the astral realm? I think you mentioned that on another post. Not sure. I honestly don't know...I'm just now learning to gain some control when having an oobe.

Those feilds are advanced feilds. This is not the caveman we're dealing with. What do they have to do before you're impressed with the human race? It must so hard being so perfect that all around you see nothing but dispair.

Ananda- The thing is, sometimes it becomes more than that. Sometimes, they may even try it in real life, and there may also be dire consequences. I've had three or four dreams about cannibalism- however, it doesn't mean that I am a cannibal, nor does it mean that I have any desire to become one.

If you want to take things at face value and feed this, then go ahead. Just remember, that if they get hurt because they think they can do these things, their safety is partially on YOUR hands, as well as on YOUR conscience.

Au Revior. 😐 ❤

Ananda, you never fail to dsliver do you? So here and now is where you make your stand on the subject? Well, it's your decision and you must live with the consequences. At least we have no grey areas now.

i'm not trying to start an arguement just expressing an opinion. If they were able to fly and do other "miracles" that could save lives or change the way people looked at the spiritual world. Or if you would help make the spiritual world less "mystic" and more science based maybe medicine, technology and other fields might be advanced. Its just a thought and I wanted to see if anyone else might share the thought. If not just ignore my comments.

it not about sides, I'm sorry I'm just not expressing myself right.

Its just that if they can do it in their dreams what is wrong with that? People do lots of things in dreams. Now if they can do it in real life it would be something to see.

I've heard of Tibetian Rinpoche's who have been able to do such things. I've seen one who could turn transparent. I just thought it would be more benefical to help "feed" dreams then just discredit them as "make believe" they might surprise you and actually be able to do it.

no mel it's not you or even meant to be a negative comment. Like I said I prefer honesty, but not everyone does. White "elephant" christmas, I don't think I've ever heard of that one. I hope everyone has a great time for new years!

Ananda, It just seems that you've made a project out of discrediting any "adult" concepts in favor of finding a comfortable spot with the younger ones on the site. This has made a small rift grow much larger than it needs to. We want everyone to work together, but it becomes difficult when you feed their fantasies of flying, controlling the elements, being an angel, etc. But no amount of pleading would stop you from keeping those fantasies alive. They finally have an adult (?) on their "side". Where there should be no sides.

Ah, I just want to make sure... All of the arguing really is too much for me. Me thinks I'm a bit too passionate (overemotional) whatever you want to call it. Lol.

Well said bbdeathspark (gotcha), and Mel33 I'm sure she wasn't refering to you. By the way, our family decided not to spend this year and we did a "White Elephant" Christmas instead. It was hilarious, and everybody still made out.

This just keeps getting better and better... But on a serious note, Hannah, it's hard to understand your writing, when you use "Internet Talk" and improper grammer. And as far as I'm concerned, I'm here on this website to learn, help others and post my experiences.

Ananda,
You're not referring to me are you? I thought I was very polite. I actually always try to be polite even when I don't always agree with someone. Honest, but polite. I can't stand arguing with people. Not that I haven't ever argued with someone. It just takes a lot out of me. And I try to treat others the way I would like to be treated.

i have to give this to you guys, you're comments definitely keeps the wits sharp. It is kind of relieving that everyone is brutely honest about their opinion, takes the guessing about what you really think out of the equation.

Hannah, the other posters here might say I'm a more gullible adult, but I tend to take most of what is said at face value. Most of the teenagers here are searching for answers to an experience they don't understand. Some of it can be explained by simple science (meaning it is commonly excepted theory of the world) or mysticism (some ancient truths that is hidden by from most of the world)

Ask you questions but be forewarned, you will get honest opinions uncensored by "politeness"

If you want some websites or help focusing your research efforts to improve upon your own abilities, email me and I'll try and help. Clupt012 [at] gmail.com

By the way, I think meditating is easier then people make it out to be. The main thing is empting your mind of all preconcieved thoughts and emotions and really LISTEN to the world. It is easier when you don't think very highly of yourself, which might be why some kids find it easier then others.

Thanks DC,
I threw my back out, but I made out like a bandit. Lol, how was yours?

Welcome back Mel33, how was your Christmas? We're waiting on Hannah.

Hannah,
You can choose to have a deeper meaning to your life or you can choose to have a shallow life. No one can tell you the meaning of life because it means something different for everyone. Search within yourself. Just remember to stay balanced and not get lost. We are spiritual beings, but we're physical beings as well.
I'm here to share a few experiences, read a few, learn, and maybe make some friends in the process.

The term "food for thought" is just another way of saying "something to think about."
Why are we on this site? I came here hoping to learn something new.

Go ahead Hannah, ask away. We won't bite, much (LOL). It's alright, just fire away.

Hannah, as soon as the submission page is open again you will be able to submit your story/experience and from there you'll receive feedback. And hopefully find some answers.

Ok, Hannah, oblige us- What was your question?

I'm sure that if asked in a civil and clear tone, a good portion of our posters would be happy to answer it, or give you the advice you need that would be the most helpful.

Au Revior. 😊 ❤

okay now I get it this site was for everyone I just want to now more aboutthis site see I was asking a question online and this site poped up so I went on and wanted some help like awnsers please just help please

I don't understand what you mean Hannah. Why are we on this site? Were you under the impression this site was for kids only or something? Why would other psychics not be here?

okay thanks guy remember I'm going to be a more sensible person I can't control the elements it was just a thery I had but I believe there is a deaper meaning in life can someone just please tell me why your on this site are you on this site for fun, serios or tring to prove a point plus what food sopose to mean and the poster is this some kind of speech

DC is right. In fact, I feel like I'm obligated to give an alternative opinion when things such as these keep being brought up. I'll leave a comment, and I'm sure others will too, but its up to you to listen and ask yourself a few questions about what you say you can do, and what you tell others that they can possibly do.

Think about this: Let's say that a poster says that they can control fire. No one questions if they can do this, or even brings forth another opinion. This unchallenged comment is now taken at face value.

Now, let's also say that another poster was interested in this, and wanted to learn how he/she could control fire. You may give them whatever piece of advice you can offer, and they'll probably eat it like a half starved coyote.

After given said advice, they now try to "control" fire, and thus light something, or themselves on fire. Now we're left with a charred kid/long-pig. And there are also parents who are now furious and deeply saddened, who now want answers. Doesn't sound too good, does it?

Food for thought.

Au Revior. 😐 ❤

Yes Hannah, and what if we are a bunch of adults? Do you see a problem with that? Why would that make a difference? Is it maybe because adults wil tell you the truth no matter the cost to your feelings? You have got to admit, you weren't expecting to be addressed in such a fashion, and by that I mean truthfully. It's just that the whole thing has gotten out of hand. Doesn't it bother you to think other people could be getting hurt by this nonsense? Believing they have some special powers to keep them from getting hurt? How can you possibly think any of these discussions are safe to have in the presence of younger ones who will believe that what you guys say is true? Fantasy land is over as far as this subject is concerned. There will always be someone like me watching for it to pop back up so we can assure it does not take root again. We intend to keep a watchful eye out for it from here on in, just so you and anyone else reading this know what to expect beforehand. Because we will be watching and waiting, always. 😐

Hannah- There's where you backed yourself up into a corner... Any practiced person will tell you that true meditation is in fact NOT easy... It takes work to reach what many have accomplished over YEARS...

Also, there is a difference between childish fantasies and what a good portion of posters came here to share... We're just good at sorting that out... The fact that you projected your anger out in a comment trying to prove yourself says quite a bit, actually...
Food for thought.

Au Revior. 😐 ❤

rook I just wanted to say thanks I might be insane ill post my story soon

okay so maybe there is no special people out there then RIGHT and if you guys don't believe this stuff why are you guys on this site then that's what I want to now? And by the way medatating is easy 4 your info

You guys are probaly a bunch of adults seeing what's wrong with us kids I bet I'm right sorry about the other note on the other day and I will be more sensible next time 😢 😁 😁

Thank you Cosmo and Shini, I know. I just get lonely over here sometimes 😢 Pitiful aint it? 😉 😉

LOL MoonStryke, that could not have been posted at a better time. I don't understand where this idea is coming from. Like DC said it is NOT possible for people to control elements. We are just not equipped to do that. Now unless you are an expert illusionist like David Blaine or Criss Angel, you might be able to fool some people. But then again it's only an illusion.

The Bases are loaded Shini, knock it out of the park girl... 😁 😉
DC, you know the LBC always has you covered. ❤

DC- You know I've got all my Loonies and friends covered.

I guess we should all be yelling "BATTER UP!"?

Au Revior. 😆 😆 ❤

Thanks for the VOTES of confidence guys, I find them you knock them out of the park. It sure is nice to know I'm appreciated around here!

OMG, Moonstryke! 😆 Oh, you totally forgot how I can, like, put out fires by taking a watering can and sprinkling water over it. Oh, and because my besties and I compare ourselves to Sam, Dean, and Castiel, I might as well be Castiel, too.

Wow, looks like some of the site and its posters have been summed up... Rook, I've also noticed that most of the posters only leave about 1-10 comments at the most on the subject matter. Kind of looks like... Well, anyway...

And Sparkyboy- Lightning IS electricity. Read up on Benjamin Franklin... And a physics/ physical science book while you're at it...

Au Revior. 😊 ❤

*Yawn* Moon, you SO ruined the sarcasm right there, but watching these people is so fun~ I'm cracking up in real life.

I can like, totally control all the elements. I can summon water with a turn of a faucet. I can summon fire with the flick of a Bic. Air? No problem! I turn on a fan. Also, I made mud pies yesterday. That's earth and water together, two for the price of one! I am awesome! And a little sleep deprived.