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revsilverson (guest)
16 years ago (2009-02-23)
walk away from what? Life? There is already a huge change in effect that will change the evolution of the human species. It is that physics (not psychics) will discover that quantum particles store all energy previously extant. We will then know that a quantum particulate divinity exists. Psychics can tap into this particulate and read what is happening (or happened) to others now and in the future.
You ask about proof and here it is- when you have 15 premonitions (dream or otherwise) come true you are psychic. When you have a seance and contact the dead and the people in the seance who are relatives of the dead tell you from your descriptions and words that you have in fact contacted the dead, you are psychic. From there on there isn't much proof. Spirits will never tell you to harm yourself or harm anyone else. This much I know. If they tell you to do that you need to seek help from a psychologist much as that info might hurt your feelings.
I am worried about you because of your fear factor and I sense a victim factor here as well.
I know that a lot of negative things are happening in the world right now, but they are corrective things to make a positive change happen. I sense no bad happening from your work with glass only suspicion that you are a patsy to a work you do not understand.
Love and Light
You ask about proof and here it is- when you have 15 premonitions (dream or otherwise) come true you are psychic. When you have a seance and contact the dead and the people in the seance who are relatives of the dead tell you from your descriptions and words that you have in fact contacted the dead, you are psychic. From there on there isn't much proof. Spirits will never tell you to harm yourself or harm anyone else. This much I know. If they tell you to do that you need to seek help from a psychologist much as that info might hurt your feelings.
I am worried about you because of your fear factor and I sense a victim factor here as well.
I know that a lot of negative things are happening in the world right now, but they are corrective things to make a positive change happen. I sense no bad happening from your work with glass only suspicion that you are a patsy to a work you do not understand.
Love and Light
WolfReal (1 stories) (35 posts)
16 years ago (2009-02-23)
Albator -
I did speak with my Aunt. I suppose I forgot to mention this because nothing of any importance happened. I explained the dream to her and she said she couldn't imagine why she would say anything like that to me. She did not even know what I was working on until I told her.
I just do not get what's happening to me. It defies explanation. Like clock work every two nights sometimes three, another dream. People talking to me about this project. Maybe... Maybe I just need to find another job. I love this job though. We are on the very edge of the accumulation of all humanities knowledge. Mark my words here and now. The world in 2 or 3 years is going to see things that people 50 years ago would have called magic because they never would have believe it to be possible. Its not my project that will bring this about but it comes from some of what we have been researching on a lower level. The world is about to change in so many ways.
Beyond this In 5 years time imagine limitless energy for everyone at almost no cost. Oil will still run our cars for a short while but will be phased out quickly. The middle east will lose what ever power they had due to oil. They will slip back into the dark ages where they belong. You'll be able to power a house with a battery like object the size of a shoe box for at least your life time. We are at the precipice of global change bigger then when they first discovered electricity. All of this and I wish I could be happy. I would be accept for this dreams. Maybe I should just walk away. No doubt I can be replaced easily.
I did speak with my Aunt. I suppose I forgot to mention this because nothing of any importance happened. I explained the dream to her and she said she couldn't imagine why she would say anything like that to me. She did not even know what I was working on until I told her.
I just do not get what's happening to me. It defies explanation. Like clock work every two nights sometimes three, another dream. People talking to me about this project. Maybe... Maybe I just need to find another job. I love this job though. We are on the very edge of the accumulation of all humanities knowledge. Mark my words here and now. The world in 2 or 3 years is going to see things that people 50 years ago would have called magic because they never would have believe it to be possible. Its not my project that will bring this about but it comes from some of what we have been researching on a lower level. The world is about to change in so many ways.
Beyond this In 5 years time imagine limitless energy for everyone at almost no cost. Oil will still run our cars for a short while but will be phased out quickly. The middle east will lose what ever power they had due to oil. They will slip back into the dark ages where they belong. You'll be able to power a house with a battery like object the size of a shoe box for at least your life time. We are at the precipice of global change bigger then when they first discovered electricity. All of this and I wish I could be happy. I would be accept for this dreams. Maybe I should just walk away. No doubt I can be replaced easily.
Albator (2 stories) (46 posts)
16 years ago (2009-02-23)
Hi again WolfReal - this may sound like a pointless question, but do you by any chance have the feeling maybe some of your coworkers are experiencing the same type of dreams? Have you mentioned this to any of them?
I can understand you're getting impatient and frustrated, being a scientific at that, but as jadetiger said, I don't think anyone will have the answer for you, people here can merely share with you their experiences of anything coming close or their insight.
The way I see it you got a clear and loud warning, 'You must stop what will come to pass from your effort. What will come to pass I said? The universes destruction he said'... These are your words, and maybe instead of wondering how come the living can visit you in your dreams you should worry more about what they are saying? I know you said that what you are working on is something 'small' and that for you 'the project is not the story', but the more I read through all of this the more I think it is. Maybe not at the stage where it stands today, but one thing leading to another, 10 years down the track you may think otherwise. Besides, your first response on the 19th Feb above doesn't make it sound like you're working on something trivial.
So what exactly is your concern? You say it's not your project... Your dreams? Not getting the link? Or are you just seaking reassurance that you can rest in peace that whatever it is you are working on is harmless? If the latter that's for you to figure out. I wish I could help you more. Did you get through to your aunt since?
It would certainly seem like a bit of a huge coincidence that all these visits so to speak serve no purpose, maybe only time will tell what they truely mean? Maybe these warnings come to you in the form of people you know so as to 'reach' out to you more? Maybe something in the way you consider life on earth (and after) has changed and your subconscious is qestionning if what you are doing is right?
Here I am throwing out more questions when you're so desperate for answers 😉
Good luck with your quest and keep us posted.
I can understand you're getting impatient and frustrated, being a scientific at that, but as jadetiger said, I don't think anyone will have the answer for you, people here can merely share with you their experiences of anything coming close or their insight.
The way I see it you got a clear and loud warning, 'You must stop what will come to pass from your effort. What will come to pass I said? The universes destruction he said'... These are your words, and maybe instead of wondering how come the living can visit you in your dreams you should worry more about what they are saying? I know you said that what you are working on is something 'small' and that for you 'the project is not the story', but the more I read through all of this the more I think it is. Maybe not at the stage where it stands today, but one thing leading to another, 10 years down the track you may think otherwise. Besides, your first response on the 19th Feb above doesn't make it sound like you're working on something trivial.
So what exactly is your concern? You say it's not your project... Your dreams? Not getting the link? Or are you just seaking reassurance that you can rest in peace that whatever it is you are working on is harmless? If the latter that's for you to figure out. I wish I could help you more. Did you get through to your aunt since?
It would certainly seem like a bit of a huge coincidence that all these visits so to speak serve no purpose, maybe only time will tell what they truely mean? Maybe these warnings come to you in the form of people you know so as to 'reach' out to you more? Maybe something in the way you consider life on earth (and after) has changed and your subconscious is qestionning if what you are doing is right?
Here I am throwing out more questions when you're so desperate for answers 😉
Good luck with your quest and keep us posted.
WolfReal (1 stories) (35 posts)
16 years ago (2009-02-22)
Academylin - I was replying to jade and mixed the names up... Sorry not sure how that happened
academylin (14 stories) (303 posts)
16 years ago (2009-02-22)
Wolf real, I think you meant to refer to The Reverand!? I have made no further comments on this story.
WolfReal (1 stories) (35 posts)
16 years ago (2009-02-22)
jadetiger - to some exent you are right. I want "proof" this is more then me just talking to me as academylin said and yet its seems you both are saying there is no way to prove this things. I have been trying to tell these people that come to me to prove themselves in a way that I can not question. They tell me about the same things you have told me which are, "take it on faith." I am not the type of person to take anything on faith and it is my own mind making this stuff up... That just drops my jaw. How or why would me own mind tell me to do something I would never do?
I do not really believe these are spirits and yet while I have had some vivid dreams in my life they never repeated that I know of and they were never this "vivid" that I can remember. I am leaning heavily toward the idea that this is me talking to me. This on some level is worrisome. If true my subconscious minds imagination far exceed my imagination. Almost to an extent I would think schizophrenia may come into play. I would be considerably more worried if I saw this happening to me while awake. Whatever is happening to me in my dreams seems separate from who I am. It does not seem as if it is coming from me. If there is no way to prove if it is or is not... I guess I just assume the logical which is that it is.
Academylin - thank you for the insight but I do not see myself with enough time to practice as you have. Even if I did I would still question whether or not you are really separating you from you. If in a trance state how can you be sure this is actually what you are doing? I understand you believe that you are, but how are you really sure?
I do not really believe these are spirits and yet while I have had some vivid dreams in my life they never repeated that I know of and they were never this "vivid" that I can remember. I am leaning heavily toward the idea that this is me talking to me. This on some level is worrisome. If true my subconscious minds imagination far exceed my imagination. Almost to an extent I would think schizophrenia may come into play. I would be considerably more worried if I saw this happening to me while awake. Whatever is happening to me in my dreams seems separate from who I am. It does not seem as if it is coming from me. If there is no way to prove if it is or is not... I guess I just assume the logical which is that it is.
Academylin - thank you for the insight but I do not see myself with enough time to practice as you have. Even if I did I would still question whether or not you are really separating you from you. If in a trance state how can you be sure this is actually what you are doing? I understand you believe that you are, but how are you really sure?
jadetiger (8 stories) (55 posts)
16 years ago (2009-02-22)
It seems to me, and this is my "feel" on this. You want someone to take you by the hand and show you. There is not one person that can do this to satisfy you. You will have to look deep within yourself for your answer. The answer is there, are you willing to look and accept what is there? Don't over analyze everything. Somethings are to be taken at face value or on faith. This all depends on you and what you believe and hold true.
Jadetiger
Jadetiger
revsilverson (guest)
16 years ago (2009-02-22)
you were asking if it has been your own voice talking to you in your head and why your aunt appeared in your dream when she is not dead because you are used to talking with dead people. Yes? So I was attempting to explain to you the various spirit forms (earthbound, astral, divine etc), which are all forms of consciousness. My experience has taught me to recognize earthbound spirits from ascended spirits because of the consciousness density they manifest when they appear to me or appear in a vision in my mind. So it can get tricky and as to whether or not it is YOU talking to YOU in your head, that can be the trickiest of all. I have a process I perform when I contact spirit. It involves deep relaxation and subsequent trance. When I do this it removes the ME from the process so I know I am not talking to myself. Dreams are the consciousness out running around while it is somewhat separated from the body. You can train yourself to control your dream activities/content, go into someone else's dreams or be visited by others in your dreams. It takes experience and an understanding of the process of spirit ascension after the death of the physical body to be able to know the differences of the different forms of consciousness.
I'm not sure that this is even your question anymore but I am here to help you. If you have another question, please narrow it down and be as specific as you can when you ask it. Beating around the bush or being mysterious hinders me from helping you.
Love and Light
I'm not sure that this is even your question anymore but I am here to help you. If you have another question, please narrow it down and be as specific as you can when you ask it. Beating around the bush or being mysterious hinders me from helping you.
Love and Light
WolfReal (1 stories) (35 posts)
16 years ago (2009-02-21)
academylin -
Fair enough. I am only interested in truth and as I have stated have little patience at this point of anything other. Call me offensive or whatever else you wish. I only call it cutting to the chase very quickly with intent.
Thanks
Fair enough. I am only interested in truth and as I have stated have little patience at this point of anything other. Call me offensive or whatever else you wish. I only call it cutting to the chase very quickly with intent.
Thanks
academylin (14 stories) (303 posts)
16 years ago (2009-02-21)
Hello Wolf real,
As you have asked, it is because I am very proud of my company and it's reputation, and the fact that we deal with what many would deem an unbroachable subject, proffesionally and with artistic flair and class.
Perhaps some people may post there "myspace" page or their "facebook" site, the space I believe asked for "website" so I put my "website" there.
Plus as I have been marketing manager and director of this company for some years now, one really doesn't want to miss an advertising opportunity!
Plus, I aint hiding. With me young man, what you see is what you get, so why not let y'all see! I'm not bothered! And funny enough my name IS LYNNE, and in response to your addition in that box, my name IS important.
Nowt complicated in it really huh?
I stated that I "m a stripper" as the most people whom one meets seem to be under the impression that "strippers", (along with the common -also incorrect- inferrence to blondes) apart from being drugged up prostitutes who only do the job to feed a coke habit, are a little bit dim! I think one could class this little statement as irony wolfreal.
Whilst we are on the subject of postings, I, incidently, went back and read a few of your other posts. Unfortunately this was after I had already added an input here. Had I have checked your previous posts first, to be honest I wouldn't have opened my mouth on this story.
I felt a lot of what you have posted to a number of people on this site a tad offensive and unconstructive.
Please feel free to ask any further questions wolf real, but only if you are really prepared to listen to the answers and the truth.
Lin
As you have asked, it is because I am very proud of my company and it's reputation, and the fact that we deal with what many would deem an unbroachable subject, proffesionally and with artistic flair and class.
Perhaps some people may post there "myspace" page or their "facebook" site, the space I believe asked for "website" so I put my "website" there.
Plus as I have been marketing manager and director of this company for some years now, one really doesn't want to miss an advertising opportunity!
Plus, I aint hiding. With me young man, what you see is what you get, so why not let y'all see! I'm not bothered! And funny enough my name IS LYNNE, and in response to your addition in that box, my name IS important.
Nowt complicated in it really huh?
I stated that I "m a stripper" as the most people whom one meets seem to be under the impression that "strippers", (along with the common -also incorrect- inferrence to blondes) apart from being drugged up prostitutes who only do the job to feed a coke habit, are a little bit dim! I think one could class this little statement as irony wolfreal.
Whilst we are on the subject of postings, I, incidently, went back and read a few of your other posts. Unfortunately this was after I had already added an input here. Had I have checked your previous posts first, to be honest I wouldn't have opened my mouth on this story.
I felt a lot of what you have posted to a number of people on this site a tad offensive and unconstructive.
Please feel free to ask any further questions wolf real, but only if you are really prepared to listen to the answers and the truth.
Lin
WolfReal (1 stories) (35 posts)
16 years ago (2009-02-21)
academylin - nice website addresss. I am wonder if I may ask, why was it important to you to 1) state you are a stripper and 2) post the site?
Im not implying you should be ashamed of it or anything, I'm just curious why when most people do not seem to talk about their jobs when posting here, its one of the first things you said.
Im not implying you should be ashamed of it or anything, I'm just curious why when most people do not seem to talk about their jobs when posting here, its one of the first things you said.
WolfReal (1 stories) (35 posts)
16 years ago (2009-02-21)
revsilverson - I guess what I am asking for (and maybe you can help with this) are people perhaps like you that know. KNOW... Not believe, not want to believe, do not want attention etc... I'm not putting you here into these categories for I do not know you but I have been looking for a little less then 2 years and I have to tell you, every lead I followed turned out to be a dead end. I just do not feel I have the time to waste at this any longer. As funny as it sounds it is emotionally draining to think you are coming close to an answer only to be told, "Your answer is so close, we can give it to you as soon as you tunr over your credit card." Or, " This is your answer. Btw did I tell you I also speak to God on a regular basis as well?"
Do you see what I am getting at? There has to be people in this world that if these things are really real, really experience them. In some ways I see myself like someone who has a cancer that wants to be healed. He knows there are a lot of flukes out there and he doesn't want to waste his time with them. He wants the best chance he has to cure it and wants to do it asap because he does not want to run out of time.
Im not entirely sure what you said in your last statement but it sounded to me like you are not sure that a spirit is anything more then just a dream. If true that is a good insight and information.
Do you see what I am getting at? There has to be people in this world that if these things are really real, really experience them. In some ways I see myself like someone who has a cancer that wants to be healed. He knows there are a lot of flukes out there and he doesn't want to waste his time with them. He wants the best chance he has to cure it and wants to do it asap because he does not want to run out of time.
Im not entirely sure what you said in your last statement but it sounded to me like you are not sure that a spirit is anything more then just a dream. If true that is a good insight and information.
revsilverson (guest)
16 years ago (2009-02-20)
i guess because of my age and experience, I am the with whom you might wish to speak.
There is a difference between earth bound spirts, astral spirits, realm of the Divine Spirit spirits and dream spirits.
Dear wolfreal: somtimes in psychic experience it doesn't matter what avenue a message might take- it is the meaning of the message that matters.
I have difficulty discerning between astral and earthbound spirit messages to this day. Spirits are more transparent than earthbound spirts but earthbound spirits and astral spirits still have the same consistency. Spirits of the Divine Realm have a consistency like no other. Sometimes a consciousness can enter into another persons dream and leave messages. This is what I think happened to you with your aunt. Whether alive (which you say she is) or dead, consciousness can enter into us.
There is a difference between earth bound spirts, astral spirits, realm of the Divine Spirit spirits and dream spirits.
Dear wolfreal: somtimes in psychic experience it doesn't matter what avenue a message might take- it is the meaning of the message that matters.
I have difficulty discerning between astral and earthbound spirit messages to this day. Spirits are more transparent than earthbound spirts but earthbound spirits and astral spirits still have the same consistency. Spirits of the Divine Realm have a consistency like no other. Sometimes a consciousness can enter into another persons dream and leave messages. This is what I think happened to you with your aunt. Whether alive (which you say she is) or dead, consciousness can enter into us.
WolfReal (1 stories) (35 posts)
16 years ago (2009-02-20)
revsilverson - That is a profound insight and one I had not thought of. Until now I assumed I was being told the project would destroy the "Mind of God" which has also been associated with gravity in one way or another in many of these conversations. I still get the feeling I am being told this rather then to relax and let it all happen. However you have given me something to think about and look into closer.
TheDemiurge - should the conclusion be that there is a real possibility of something bad happening and I am being told to stop it by people I know that are dead, I do not know but I highly doubt it. I suspect I could set the project back a fair step but get rid of it completely... No. Not unless I convinced everyone working on the project to abandon it and seal it up. THAT would never happen. To many people have put to much of their lives into it to give it up. Which makes this all the more odd, why tell someone to they must hold back a flood with only their hands?
I'm not sure if I should focus on the fact I see my dead family and relatives in dreams that are so real every other night, or the idea their spirits may really be talking to me. What is the line between a dream and not a dream? I have already had someone study my brainwaves while sleeping. Nothing much out of the ordinary though they did say it seems as if my brain was a bit more active then most people dreaming. When they woke me up at the highest peaks they woke me in the middle of some of these dreams. Odd things happened when they did that but nothing that could not be explained. I hate being woken up unexpectedly.
I can read books about dreams, theories behind dreams and sprits. The point is, I am hoping for someone to be able to tell me where to find people that I can talk to about this who are considered experts in their field. Id prefer not to hit up my local palm reader if you know what I mean. Book suggestions in the like on this would also be appreciated. I have read many so far but I do not know how to find the best ones.
TheDemiurge - should the conclusion be that there is a real possibility of something bad happening and I am being told to stop it by people I know that are dead, I do not know but I highly doubt it. I suspect I could set the project back a fair step but get rid of it completely... No. Not unless I convinced everyone working on the project to abandon it and seal it up. THAT would never happen. To many people have put to much of their lives into it to give it up. Which makes this all the more odd, why tell someone to they must hold back a flood with only their hands?
I'm not sure if I should focus on the fact I see my dead family and relatives in dreams that are so real every other night, or the idea their spirits may really be talking to me. What is the line between a dream and not a dream? I have already had someone study my brainwaves while sleeping. Nothing much out of the ordinary though they did say it seems as if my brain was a bit more active then most people dreaming. When they woke me up at the highest peaks they woke me in the middle of some of these dreams. Odd things happened when they did that but nothing that could not be explained. I hate being woken up unexpectedly.
I can read books about dreams, theories behind dreams and sprits. The point is, I am hoping for someone to be able to tell me where to find people that I can talk to about this who are considered experts in their field. Id prefer not to hit up my local palm reader if you know what I mean. Book suggestions in the like on this would also be appreciated. I have read many so far but I do not know how to find the best ones.
TheDemiurge (2 stories) (17 posts)
16 years ago (2009-02-20)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you seem to be the kind of man whose tether to the earth is logic. I would say if you have any fear it would be based on the common knowledge of the fact that if a company spent millions or more dollars on an energy project and one day they found out that there's a possibility that if activated, it would destroy the existence of man, they would go ahead and do it anyway because nothing gets in the way of their glory, (As you said in a previous post about the nuclear tests).
Perhaps if they are spirits, they have come to you as they see you as someone who is honest and can feel a real responsibility to his fellow human race. Do you have the power or ability to stop it or halt its progress by any chance? Also, do you think the people in charge know about the potential harm this could do?
Perhaps if they are spirits, they have come to you as they see you as someone who is honest and can feel a real responsibility to his fellow human race. Do you have the power or ability to stop it or halt its progress by any chance? Also, do you think the people in charge know about the potential harm this could do?
revsilverson (guest)
16 years ago (2009-02-20)
my opinion is that your dream was telling you not to be afraid of the end of the fabric of existence because it isn't going to happen (the people in the diner going about their usual business). The flesh and blood part of you is your fear which has pretty much disabled you. The tone of your writing is almost frantic with fear. Not to minimize your experience but I hear you saying "the sky is falling- the sky is falling." be calm she says. Listen to the music (divine spirit energy) around you. Wake up your mind she says.
Collective fear from workers and others leads to illogical thinking which usually results in some form of death whether it be the death of clear thinking, the death of happiness or, in the case of mob mentality, death of another human being. This is dangerous ground.
I think she is telling you to think for yourself and to seek out the positive aspects (music) of your life. Do not focus on the negative or you will confine yourself to experiencing fear, anger and hate which will push away any positive energy that surrounds you. Expand your consciousness by studying spirituality and its many wonders. Get a new focus and regain your peace of mind. Relax and enjoy life.
Love and Light
Collective fear from workers and others leads to illogical thinking which usually results in some form of death whether it be the death of clear thinking, the death of happiness or, in the case of mob mentality, death of another human being. This is dangerous ground.
I think she is telling you to think for yourself and to seek out the positive aspects (music) of your life. Do not focus on the negative or you will confine yourself to experiencing fear, anger and hate which will push away any positive energy that surrounds you. Expand your consciousness by studying spirituality and its many wonders. Get a new focus and regain your peace of mind. Relax and enjoy life.
Love and Light
WolfReal (1 stories) (35 posts)
16 years ago (2009-02-20)
Albator - That's what I am worried about. Are these sprits just things my conscious is throwing at me? Honestly I simply am not that worried about the project in my day to day life. What were are experimenting with is small and even if it were not there is no reason to believe that though we might create what amounts to a battery, it limitless energy it would "fly apart" and commit chaos through out the area.
The super collider is another ball of wax altogether though. Blackholes are fine to play with in nature if you think you can ( no one can and I suspect will not be able to for billions of years) but you do not go and create one in your own home, Earth in this instance.) I do not know one person in this facility who is not worried about that project. Do not get me wrong, every one of us salivates at the information that can come from that project but creating a blackhole just to prove you can... I thought we were smarter then that by now. Were my conscious going to create figments of my imagination concerning things I am worried about I would think it would be talking to me about that or nuclear war. Instead I talk to family member about the project I work on.
Two nights ago a person I thought I did not know came and spoke with me. Turns out this person is not dead and I did not recognize them because they were much older in the dream then in real life. I ask her what she was doing in my dream when through the past 2 years I have only spoken to dead people. My aunt said that time was running out and the rules are "changing". I said what rules to which she said a phrase that is beginning to annoy the hell out of me, "You already know." I said, "No, no I do NOT know and that is what is starting to piss me off. If what all of you are trying to tell me is so important, then just tell me and stop speaking in riddles. Be straight forward." TO this she said, "We are telling you but you are listening with the flesh and blood part of you. You have to listen to the music that is all around you." I said, "Music what music? What are you talking about?" Be calm she said, empty your thoughts. You have to wake your mind up. Wake up. Wake up." And then I did.
While speaking with her I was standing in an Antias dinner though I do not know where. I could smell all the food cooking. I could hear the clank of silverware and dishes. I saw a guy put sugar into his coffee. I saw the outside street with cars running up and down. Why would spirits need cars? I have tried to call my Aunt since the dream. I have not been able to get in touch with her yet.
The super collider is another ball of wax altogether though. Blackholes are fine to play with in nature if you think you can ( no one can and I suspect will not be able to for billions of years) but you do not go and create one in your own home, Earth in this instance.) I do not know one person in this facility who is not worried about that project. Do not get me wrong, every one of us salivates at the information that can come from that project but creating a blackhole just to prove you can... I thought we were smarter then that by now. Were my conscious going to create figments of my imagination concerning things I am worried about I would think it would be talking to me about that or nuclear war. Instead I talk to family member about the project I work on.
Two nights ago a person I thought I did not know came and spoke with me. Turns out this person is not dead and I did not recognize them because they were much older in the dream then in real life. I ask her what she was doing in my dream when through the past 2 years I have only spoken to dead people. My aunt said that time was running out and the rules are "changing". I said what rules to which she said a phrase that is beginning to annoy the hell out of me, "You already know." I said, "No, no I do NOT know and that is what is starting to piss me off. If what all of you are trying to tell me is so important, then just tell me and stop speaking in riddles. Be straight forward." TO this she said, "We are telling you but you are listening with the flesh and blood part of you. You have to listen to the music that is all around you." I said, "Music what music? What are you talking about?" Be calm she said, empty your thoughts. You have to wake your mind up. Wake up. Wake up." And then I did.
While speaking with her I was standing in an Antias dinner though I do not know where. I could smell all the food cooking. I could hear the clank of silverware and dishes. I saw a guy put sugar into his coffee. I saw the outside street with cars running up and down. Why would spirits need cars? I have tried to call my Aunt since the dream. I have not been able to get in touch with her yet.
Albator (2 stories) (46 posts)
16 years ago (2009-02-20)
WolfReal - I work literally 5mins. Walk away from the CERN and its 'super collider' in question, and yes, people here were scared when the beast was activated.
For those who read French, here's an article summarizing some of the fears, from the creation of a black hole, to a space-time continuum allowing for ETs and future civilizations to come through and harm us.
You are obviously working on things I cannot even begin to understant, but it seems to me you are either having very wise dreams that maybe need to be listened to, or it's your conscience playing on you big time.
Http://www.tdg.ch/geneve/actu/2008/09/06/nouvelle-installation-cern-eveille-craintes-farfelues
For those who read French, here's an article summarizing some of the fears, from the creation of a black hole, to a space-time continuum allowing for ETs and future civilizations to come through and harm us.
You are obviously working on things I cannot even begin to understant, but it seems to me you are either having very wise dreams that maybe need to be listened to, or it's your conscience playing on you big time.
Http://www.tdg.ch/geneve/actu/2008/09/06/nouvelle-installation-cern-eveille-craintes-farfelues
academylin (14 stories) (303 posts)
16 years ago (2009-02-20)
Wolfreal,
Sorry for ranting, I was confused. I re read your description, if you haven't already perhaps reading Robert A Monroe would be helpful to you in explaining some more depth regarding the "transitory" places, try "Journeys out of body" or "far journeys".
By the way I had some weird a** dream last night which I was wondering could perhaps be linked to your energy experiments...
Sorry again, Linx 😊
Sorry for ranting, I was confused. I re read your description, if you haven't already perhaps reading Robert A Monroe would be helpful to you in explaining some more depth regarding the "transitory" places, try "Journeys out of body" or "far journeys".
By the way I had some weird a** dream last night which I was wondering could perhaps be linked to your energy experiments...
Sorry again, Linx 😊
TheDemiurge (2 stories) (17 posts)
16 years ago (2009-02-20)
wolfreal I am sorry if we got to a rough introduction on the other board. I didn't realize you were dealing with such a thing, I thought you were just another jacka*** trying to be rude to people. I myself can understand the importance of trying to weed out the fakes on boards like these. After all in order to prove that these kind of things exist, we need a poster such as yourself with a valuable scientific understanding to weed out the obvious and explainable in our experiences. Just wanted to say, sorry for misunderstanding you.
academylin (14 stories) (303 posts)
16 years ago (2009-02-19)
Wolf real,
You are a scientist, you will think in one plane unfortunately. I am misunderstanding your questions, obviously - I am blonde and female and a stripper, this obviously doubles the outcome of the equasion...!
What do you want to know... How to improve your intuition. Or how not to experiment with NUCLEAR (thats the one I didn't mention, because it's old) on our earth! It is after all only particle physics... But I am stil misguided as to your wants... You asked if the dead can speak to you, Yes is the answer.
Lin xx 😊
You are a scientist, you will think in one plane unfortunately. I am misunderstanding your questions, obviously - I am blonde and female and a stripper, this obviously doubles the outcome of the equasion...!
What do you want to know... How to improve your intuition. Or how not to experiment with NUCLEAR (thats the one I didn't mention, because it's old) on our earth! It is after all only particle physics... But I am stil misguided as to your wants... You asked if the dead can speak to you, Yes is the answer.
Lin xx 😊
WolfReal (1 stories) (35 posts)
16 years ago (2009-02-19)
The project is not the story here. But to quell your curiosity and perhaps drone up even more Ill tell you some of because again you'll find very little information about it anywhere, therefore again not believe it. We are working on the outer fringes of current human understanding. Did you know that when the first nuclear bomb was detonated the scientists working on the project believed there was a very real possibility the resulting explosion would ignite all of the oxygen in the atmosphere and kill all life on earth? Funny how they went ahead with the test anyway, sometimes I feel as if we are very close to doing the same type of thing.
It wasn't too long ago we found with some of the same information we received 2 years ago that there is a very close to the connection between matter, antimatter and dark energy. For reasons we can not explain right now, when matter come in to close contact with its anti matter, dark energy spikes and from what we can tell, that energy never subsides. It is constant. Think of it like a car that never runs out of gas and never needs to be refilled. It may be that the car would run out of energy eventually but so far down the road generations of people would be dead before you ever needed to refill the car. We believe we are on the verge of limitless energy. A potential side effect of what we are doing though is creating a cascade effect that unbinds gravity in the area and this of course is where the weapons area of the research first started. Gravity would not go away but it would follow no path no rules. Were this to happen to you at one point you might fill as light as a feather and the next as heavy as a train there by crushing your own bones from your own weight. Now imagine that in the area the size of a solar system or galaxy. In theory it may never stop and unbind the entire universe.
I only told you this story so that you understand the importance of what we are working on. I do not know anything about "spirts", the term that was used on the site that led me here. But given the fact that so few people see dead people I assume crossing over from the dead is not an easy task. It would take something of great importance to compel a sprit to make that journey or at lest this is my current though. I'm not saying that's what's happening to me but if what I was doing was that important I would think these sprits would visit me during the day when I knew I was not dreaming and have words with me at that time. Still I can not shake the fact that these dreams happen every other night almost on the clock and for the most part are as real to me as sitting here typing. If these dreams were not this way, I would pay them no mind and I would not be here.
It wasn't too long ago we found with some of the same information we received 2 years ago that there is a very close to the connection between matter, antimatter and dark energy. For reasons we can not explain right now, when matter come in to close contact with its anti matter, dark energy spikes and from what we can tell, that energy never subsides. It is constant. Think of it like a car that never runs out of gas and never needs to be refilled. It may be that the car would run out of energy eventually but so far down the road generations of people would be dead before you ever needed to refill the car. We believe we are on the verge of limitless energy. A potential side effect of what we are doing though is creating a cascade effect that unbinds gravity in the area and this of course is where the weapons area of the research first started. Gravity would not go away but it would follow no path no rules. Were this to happen to you at one point you might fill as light as a feather and the next as heavy as a train there by crushing your own bones from your own weight. Now imagine that in the area the size of a solar system or galaxy. In theory it may never stop and unbind the entire universe.
I only told you this story so that you understand the importance of what we are working on. I do not know anything about "spirts", the term that was used on the site that led me here. But given the fact that so few people see dead people I assume crossing over from the dead is not an easy task. It would take something of great importance to compel a sprit to make that journey or at lest this is my current though. I'm not saying that's what's happening to me but if what I was doing was that important I would think these sprits would visit me during the day when I knew I was not dreaming and have words with me at that time. Still I can not shake the fact that these dreams happen every other night almost on the clock and for the most part are as real to me as sitting here typing. If these dreams were not this way, I would pay them no mind and I would not be here.
academylin (14 stories) (303 posts)
16 years ago (2009-02-19)
Working on the fact that you won't say what technology you are investigating/experimenting with, I can only guess at it being perhaps EMP.
I can therefore believe the destruction caused by your experiments if this is the case, and the fact that it is perhaps un-reported (media wise).
The Hadron I don't understand quite as much about as the other, and I don't understand the last two sentances regarding "the project" "the fear" and "the singularity"?
In answer to your question though, of course people can communicate "from the dead", and if your project is something to do with harnassing magnetic power you will be aware of Teslar and the research and consequently the disasters which are REPORTED, imagine the UNREPORTED incidents? Add yours to the equasion, however minor and it shouldn't have to take "ghosts in your dreams" to warn you of an outcome which no body can really predict! 😐
Linx
I can therefore believe the destruction caused by your experiments if this is the case, and the fact that it is perhaps un-reported (media wise).
The Hadron I don't understand quite as much about as the other, and I don't understand the last two sentances regarding "the project" "the fear" and "the singularity"?
In answer to your question though, of course people can communicate "from the dead", and if your project is something to do with harnassing magnetic power you will be aware of Teslar and the research and consequently the disasters which are REPORTED, imagine the UNREPORTED incidents? Add yours to the equasion, however minor and it shouldn't have to take "ghosts in your dreams" to warn you of an outcome which no body can really predict! 😐
Linx
academylin (14 stories) (303 posts)
16 years ago (2009-02-19)
Wolf real, I might believe you, but I am not going to pressure you into telling me anything, if you don't want to, it may help to establish perhaps "why" these dreams have occured also...
WolfReal (1 stories) (35 posts)
16 years ago (2009-02-19)
academylin - I warn you there is very little I can discuss. I can tell you though this research originally started out from "defense" but really offense weaponry funding. It still is this however the potential energy usage return couldn't be denied. We switched from a weaponry first goal to energy first goal because it seems easier to obtain and in the end may have a large impact on defense anyway.
If I told you what type of energy you would not believe me so there's no need to mention it.
If I told you what type of energy you would not believe me so there's no need to mention it.
academylin (14 stories) (303 posts)
16 years ago (2009-02-19)
Hello Wolf real,
I believe a friend and I were having a discussion about your energy experiments just the other day. We covered wave, wind and magnetic. I am guessing your research falls into the latter?
I am interested in clarifying this before I go further, look forward to hearing from you re; this
Linx 😊
I believe a friend and I were having a discussion about your energy experiments just the other day. We covered wave, wind and magnetic. I am guessing your research falls into the latter?
I am interested in clarifying this before I go further, look forward to hearing from you re; this
Linx 😊
academylin (14 stories) (303 posts)
16 years ago (2009-02-19)
Hey Wolf real, you on line? I just printed your story out to go through, but I wanted to ask you some stuff?
Linx 😊
Linx 😊
WolfReal (1 stories) (35 posts)
16 years ago (2009-02-19)
Lynn thank you - how do I find a VAILD spirtualist?
Ill try asking for veriffication but in some ways I have already done this. I have repeated several times how do I know I'm not just dreaming this and you are only in my head. I have recieved answers like "You know, stop playing games there isn't time for it." etc...
Ill try asking for veriffication but in some ways I have already done this. I have repeated several times how do I know I'm not just dreaming this and you are only in my head. I have recieved answers like "You know, stop playing games there isn't time for it." etc...
Lynn (5 posts)
16 years ago (2009-02-19)
For WolFReal
You can ask those in spirit to validate, or show you proof that they exist. They will let you know something that only you can know. My deceased grandmother and father speak to me, and if I am not sure of what I receive, then they show me sometimes in a real life event timed usually a day after my asking. You have received a warning that should be followed. Another validation is to go to a spiritualist and without prompting them, they should also validate your experiences, as spirit will want to ensure that you have understood what they ask. I have had spirit communication, and then gone to a spiritualist who told me without prompting what they said, word for word. Hope this helps.
You can ask those in spirit to validate, or show you proof that they exist. They will let you know something that only you can know. My deceased grandmother and father speak to me, and if I am not sure of what I receive, then they show me sometimes in a real life event timed usually a day after my asking. You have received a warning that should be followed. Another validation is to go to a spiritualist and without prompting them, they should also validate your experiences, as spirit will want to ensure that you have understood what they ask. I have had spirit communication, and then gone to a spiritualist who told me without prompting what they said, word for word. Hope this helps.
jadetiger (8 stories) (55 posts)
16 years ago (2009-02-18)
I had a dream of my father about one week after he died. I was in my house and then I was in another. This one happened to be the one that he was building. He was there with his brother, he turned to me and told me to tell my mom that he was just about through building the house. I could see the boards, the saw he used and the hammer and nails. So yes it is possible to say can you say can you or count this. I looked around at what he was building. My father was a carpenter before he got sick and died. When sent a warning, sometimes it's best to heed them. Deep down you will just know.
Jadetiger
Jadetiger
WolfReal (1 stories) (35 posts)
16 years ago (2009-02-18)
Baby_blue
Can you tell me more of this. Why did you believe in your dream something bad was associated with the truck? Perhpas your mother was telling you to meet people. How did they follow you? Were you chased or did they simply stay on the same street as you?
Can you tell me more of this. Why did you believe in your dream something bad was associated with the truck? Perhpas your mother was telling you to meet people. How did they follow you? Were you chased or did they simply stay on the same street as you?
baby_blue28 (1 stories) (1 posts)
16 years ago (2009-02-18)
September 2008 I dreamed of my late mother she hadn't spoke before this time she did. She told me that she couldn't always be there with me and at this point I turned to see in my dream a white truck full of men it frightened me and I ran. The next day it was the last day of the fair I had worked for extra cash and we just got paid, as I walked to my car I noticed that same exact truck sitting with it's lights on full of people, remembering my dream I got in my car, locked the doors and got out of there. They followed me for a ways I finally lost them on the interstate. I say listen very carefully when the deceased talk to you in your dreams who knows what would've happened had she not warned me. I don't want to go back to find out.
WolfReal (1 stories) (35 posts)
16 years ago (2009-02-17)
Please tell me then. You know the difference between real life and dreams. Can you tell me if you knew you were dreaming at the time? Could you say, see the pebbles in a sidewalk you might be stand on or count the planks on a dock look back and see the exact same nail in the same place it was before you looked away?
yalonda78 (12 posts)
16 years ago (2009-02-17)
Wow, I had the same experience with my step mom and my uncle after they passed away. I had the privledge of gettin to spend some time with my mother before she died, although she was in a coma, I got to talk to her and tell her how I felt about her. For some reason, I was so worried that she did not hear the conversation that we had. Well, one night about 2 weeks after she died, she was in my dream. SHe told me that she heard me and began to repeat what I said to her. She looked so beautiful, so young, so much better than she did before she died. When I woke up, I was crying to hard because it was so real. I definitly understand what you are talking about.
angelwingfeathers (2 posts)
16 years ago (2009-02-17)
I have seen all of my relatives, mother, father and brother in dreams after they have died... They all knew that they were dead and my father told me when I asked him how he got to come back, "I don't know how I got to come back, I'm just glad I did". My brother (in a dream) died at 29 from aids, and he came to me just so happy and told me, "Look what I can do!", as he did cart wheel after cart wheel across a yard... Then he was gone. The dreams only happened once and within days of their deaths. The dreams were so vivid that I woke up thinking that surely it was some sort of communication from them, although quite disturbing for me... So real!
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