Reading People And Feeling People's Emotions

SnowAngel I actually prefer not labeling things as "good" or "bad" since both words imply positive or negative connotations.

I've been researching various levels of empath skills and have been able to access just a few myself consistantly with results as the following (not the higher levels are not "better" then the lower anymore then radio waves are "better" then light waves, they are just part of the electromagnetic spectrum)

I believe there are many dimensions to our current world and that psychics are able to access and view them through many different means: OBE, empathetic link, dreams, third eye, etc.

Personally I do it through my heart charka empathetic link naturally and open my third eye if I encounter a problem with a person that can not be dealt with on the physical everyday plane people inhabit naturally during their waking hours.

1. Material plane: seen with the human eyes, detected with our advance technological equipment and composed of more than we currently know: matter and energy

2. Plane of interconnections: this is when you can "see" the strands that connect life and how energy is transfered from one organism or being to another. You can see the energy transfered from food to the human consuming it, you can see the love connections between people, etc. Sometimes they are beings of light or darkness, globes, threads, etc. Heart charka

3. Thought plane: that is when you can see others thoughts, for me they become beings that can walk and talk and influence other people, created by peoples words, actions and thoughts. Some beings have little energy and soon disappear from the plane, others are given more energy and "live" a little longer before be "destroyed" (energy is recycled) by another being. Third eye charka

Anyway, I'm still learning about my abilities and don't always see clearly this world around me but it works for my everyday existence. I normally just practice with the first two because I've had the most experience with them and understand what is happening better, but I'm trying to learn how to see accurately in all three dimensions.

There are more dimensions that I don't bother talking or practicing in until I get these three master to my and my teachers expectations and level of compentency.

[at] Natural Science
Interesting job idea you have given me. I had never heard of such a word until I read it today. I don't think I'm that great at deciphering people's body language yet to be a police officer. It gets tricky at times, because a person who is good at controlling their body language can fake it. If you want to find a really really good body language readers are those veteran computer animators or some artist. Look at Michelangelo's sketches. He knows what he sees. Medical field... I am not so sure I'll do great in such a field, my brain is more wired more on the other side.

You have the most interesting topic I ever read about empathy connecting with Christianity or god. You bring up a whole different field of idea of what Empathy means. Plus some of the points I do agree on about "fear." I am not so sure every know what kind of fear Jesus really meant at that time, but then at the same time we can not say we know what not to fear. We can either read it simply as it the words mean it or we can go and look at it in a different light.

[at] anadhya
What I was talking about was more of energy levels or emotion levels. You can say its good or bad if that makes it more easy for you to understand. If I put it this way the idea of negative energy that people transmit out your saying it "eats" other people's emotions and influence them in either a good or bad way, and this cause them to react or recycle the energy back at the person. Correct? This is how you see it right? Now the question arise of if you say you recycle the energy to do the worms duty of eating up the dead to bring something new, that philosophy or idea doesn't really work when such a question or statement like this comes up. "when negative energy starts to stack up on itself to create a bigger energy of negativity." So what would you say next?

SnowAngel if you still are NOT occupied in some medical profession seriously think of learning such a job. Someone like you would be an excellent Homeopathist - if he/she had also a real big and fast-learning memory for medical and pharmacological data. Being a police (wo) man or something similar would also be adequate - security people have to be good at reading body language.

Yes shaolin this is right; but it is a question of degrees only. Both abilities are rooted in the same structure of our psyche. Thus striving to learn human empathy (which is purely natural though not inborn, as the ability to write) can yield also this finer kind of empathy (which borders to the supernatural); the latter then may reveal hidden issues, or help to find an optimal "ecological niche" for one's own children, the ideal place and surroundings for a project, for a special kind of garden, etc.

Empathy is not just about emotions. Empathy as a whole is about being able to feel out the state of something, whether it's a being or not. Even though the universal fabric doesn't have emotions, you can feel when it's being effected by someones influence, you can feel if it's helpful or harmful, you can feel what you can do about it, too. Those deeply in tune with nature are empaths to a great extent. They know how nature is doing, then can sense when something is not right, like the soil is unfit for plants, or if a tree or animal isn't in good health.

Hi AnandaHya - again you found the right words to guide people on the narrow path between Superstition, i.e. That kind of false readiness to believe that makes supernatural things out of natural ones, and Materialism, i.e. Superficiality of thought and view that ignores what cannot be grasped by hands or measured by voltmeters or similar devices.

In fact this path is not THAT narrow, see. Empathy is a natural gift but also a direct wire to the heart of Our Lord.

Jesus showed this by His life, and preached it between the lines by His teachings about Charity. "Love your neighbor as you love yourself" - if people are constantly taught this during youth, as we Christians, all good-willed among them will strive to learn empathy so that they may see adequately how this is done in daily life.

Of course all kinds of fallacies and errors are possible on this path, even the most absurd ones, but this depends mainly on the amount of fear, not that thing called Fear of God which is meant as a "warning light" to give alarm if Evil is met with, but a false, misleading fear...

Thus Jesus kept saying to people "Have no fear!"

This kind of false fear is so evil that it can pervert even the Gospel of Charity.

See, those inquisitors who tormented and killed their brethren in order to save their souls from Hell, being superstitious enough to think that Salvation depends on literally believing in clerical dogma instead of allowing themselves to know what lies open to everyone who can read the Gospel, thought themselves to be on the side of Light, and surely even felt some pity for their own victims.
But a false fear of Hell had been implanted in their minds when young; they thought it to be worth any amount of suffering on Earth to escape this Eternal Agony, and - this was the central error, one of the main errors of Catholic dogma - that Purpose hallows Means, i.e., that it is allowed at least for clerical Authorities to kill and torment people who have done wrong or are suspected to have done wrong, in order to make the "True Religion" and its Law victorious on Earth.

Had they read their own Bible with unbiased minds, trusting in the Holy Spirit to tell them THEMSELVES not by edicts of their Pope how they should understand the Word of God, they would have found the words

"Vengeance is My affair, speaketh God"

Thus they would have known that it is not their task as mortal humans to punish wrong-doers, but rather to pray for them and to aviod themselves the things they do wrong. "Truth is best spread by me by doing right meself and by explaining what I do and avoid, and why it is so, to any person who listens in a language that can be understood by the other one" would have been the answer to them.
They would have rejected the mad idea of enforcing an open ear for the Word of God by violence or blackmail - recognizing that only those who have lost Faith in God must recur to Faith in Fire and Sword and a spying Inquisition!

It is impossible to understand why it took nearly until today for Churches, even most Protestant communities, to grasp this obvious and simple thing.

Martin Luther himself could theoretically have grasped it. But he himself had been brainwashed in the way described above, having been a Catholic monk. Thus in spite of his conversion to MORE truth of the Word, he still was blind on one eye, being harmed for life by the leaven of those black-robed Pharisees who had educated him. This is proven by the fact that Luther when growing old became paranoiac to highest degree and his psychotic theme was devils. He believed for example that evil spirits loved to rest on the surface of ponds and lakes and thus counseled people not to bathe in such pools, and also believed that babies could be exchanged bvy demons and replaced by changeling-children full of Evil. Such symptoms occur in many aging people who have been brainwashed by phantom fears when young, no matter if those ideas are of a spiritual kind as in Catholicism or of a mundane paranioac kind as in Bolshevism.

St Paul the Apostle himself, as you know, had a similar issue, being ex Pharisee; and it lead to some misunderstandable and in part even misleading ideas in his letters which showed bad after-effects throughout Church history until now, especially for us women. All the misanthropic, revengeful, "black" religious ideas that have developed in History of Christianity take their ideological excuse either from words of St Paul - or from those warlike and cursing parts of Old Testament which Jesus had shown to be out of time by forgiving His murderers... Neither St John nor St Peter gave in their letters a base for these perversions of thought. Only St Paul did.

And it is the leaven of St Paul and consorts that made the valuable Letter of St Barnabas an "apocryph" though it is full of the Holy Spirit. Well, perhaps this was God's Will, as absurd as it may sound... For St Barnabas perhaps wrote his letter for us, for the 3rd millennium of baptised people to live and to study the Word... Humans of past times having been just still too childish to understand him.

You, AnandaHya, surely read the letter of St Barnabas; for you stress what he taught "Fast by doing good deeds, not by starving your bodies."
I however know only this sentence, and how Barnabas goes on about the True Fasting which is Charity, I now try to give the words - learned by heart long time ago - in English translation, for the rest of our Western world to read it here:

"Even if you bow to God until your body gets formed nearly like a circle, and wear a sack as clothing, and sleep in a bed of ashes, this is not a Fasting that pleases God!
Rather... Help those suppressed; and abolish all your inhonest contracts; and share your bread with those who are starving; and if you see one naked give him clothing; and take destitute people to your homes and give them places to live in."

Hope I helped you Ananda in your task to "sieve out the leaven of the Pharisees" from the Gospel (as written in your Profile)

- and God bless all the so-called Post-Christians here for in fact they - I'd better say WE - still ARE Christians and even more so as they have left their churches in disappointment.

Jesus walks with all of them in their desert, their diaspora.

St Barnabas will help them - well, US - to start Christianity anew. From Zero, so to speak. To make the stones rejected by the masons the Corner Stones again. The last shall be the First says the Gospel. All readers here who disbelieve in this future of Christianity please wait twenty years and see and if it has not come true until then you may laugh at me!

snowangel:

"When "we" (the humans) have empathy, there are people who leans more towards the negative side, or the positive depending on how we each think and feel, do you think that people who leans more towards on the positive will have a higher chance of being more "in-tuned" with people or the negative side?"

I don't think it matters which side we lean to but more our innate ablities. When you say "negative" and "positive" are you talking about emotions or spiritual energy? Because they are qualative labels similar to "good" and "evil" it depends on how you veiw the words. For example a being that eats spiritual energy is often called "evil" but is more often misunderstood because they are like the worms that digest rotting corpses. If they didn't do their job we wouldn't have soil for plants and trees to grow from. IF the spiritual energy is not recycled then life would not function as it should.

Does that make sense?

I like the ninja analogy. Thanks for posting your story.

SnowAngel12: No not like I'm being watched. It's more like I get overcome with negative feelings and I just have to get away from that person. For example: My husband has this friend his name is Steve as soon as I met him I did NOT like him at all. We were at a local bar and I had to get up and go to the other side of the bar with one of my friends because I was feeling angry and just had to get away from him. A couple of times after that when he showed up I would immediately get up and go to the other side of the room. My husband would say... Oh he's ok he's just got a lot of problems. I said no there is something about him that creeps me out and I can't be around him. Turns out this guy had a drinking problem and went home one night and beat the hell out of his girlfriend. 😕

[at] anandahya
That makes sense. Yes I do agree with you that not everything is supernatural. Here is an odd question though, when I read your first paragraph, I wanted to know your thoughts on this. Okay...let's see...oh! When "we" (the humans) have empathy, there are people who leans more towards the negative side, or the positive depending on how we each think and feel, do you think that people who leans more towards on the positive will have a higher chance of being more "in-tuned" with people or the negative side?

The question might sound like an obvious answer of the usual it can go both ways, but why does it go both ways to you guys.

[at] cosmogal926
When you say you get creep out, do you mean like you get the feeling you are being watched on every move or is it something else?

[at] DCinAZ
Lol. Well empathic people do sometimes seem like ninjas on a mission, but at times it might be like a lost sheep grazing in the wrong pasture because it lost it herd. XD Everyone does have a different definition to the question they are given or believe in, but possibly they did not wrote it in a way that best explain their intentions, or they don't want to come back and fix it, or many other reason. I too get lazy at times sigh... Such a bad habit.

Snowangel, thanks for the reply. I love the ninja analogy! (lol) The reason this got my attention in the first place is that some of the stories and comments I've read lately had me confused. I'd always understood it to be as we've discussed here, but I got the impression that others had a different definition. But, I guess that's why you wrote this to begin with, huh? (smacking myself in the forehead saying"Duh Deane") I do appreciate the chance to discuss this and I doubt I would have done it on my own, as I said before, I'm still learning this stuff. 😊 ❤

Hi snowangel12, I would like to answer your question if I may. When I meet someone for the first time and am introduced to them is when I start to feel things about that person. I will usually get caring, sweet, or good hearted feelings about someone which will make me say to myself that they are good. Sometime I will get bad vibes, and feel like someone is shady, or phony sometime I even get creeped out in front of some people and have to walk away. I don't want to plug my own stories, but I do have one on here that is entitled Premonition or just very strong Intuition? That you might like to read. I believe it might have something to do with this subject. Thanks for posting this snowangel12, I am enjoying this discussion. 😊

see I think there is some confusion in this, because most of the time I choose not to be empathic and feel what others are. Its a defense mechanism so that I don't start getting headaches and try to heal or save everybody around me.

For me when I choose to use it, it is so I can learn about a specific person or situation and what they are feeling at that moment. I can't tell why they are feeling it or what they are thinking at the time. Beyond my scope of talents, but normally my guides help me figure it out and what to do to help them. I like it when I check all my threads and people are asleep, happy and content, baby girl just woke up...

Ok she's good. Lost my train of thought... Oh not everything is "suppernatural" some things are just human nature and built in for our survive as a species and civilization. If we couldn't feel others or read them and their unspoken messages, we'd be in a lot of trouble. People learn how to this from their caretakers and train their caretakers to feed them and reward them for understanding this unspoken language from before they even are born. The chemicals in the mom's body tells the baby to like or dislike certain voices.

Oh my bad. I must not have clarified myself on what I was getting at. Maybe my example wasn't the right way to explain, when a dividing line of judging a person or observing a person. It can also be between empathically feeling a person and not being to opinionated and bringing up assumptions about the person from there feelings. Also I was just talking about observation skills and people's expression, and how you can tell when something is wrong, without much help of empathic ability, at the same time empathy could be used with their observation skills. The outer shell of a human is just like a foot in the door (aka salesman) to learning their motives or about them, while the empathic ability is more of the get inside the door type without being noticed (aka ninjas is how I see them XD).

And about the underlying motives, you are not incorrect on what you say, I might have said some things that was either confusing or didn't make sense. Sorry about that.
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Just so I understand what you mean, could you tell me if or where I'm wrong in how I separate the two? I've always been under the impression that an 'empath' could read the emotions that are HIDDEN from how a person is presenting themselves at any given time. For instance, what you were saying about a persons posture and their eyebrow movements etc, I call that reading their body language, or simply being observant. But an 'empath' can see three people talking, one says something in a joking manner, one person laughs and the third person walks away. In my scenario, an empath doesn't need to read the one who walked away to know that persons feelings. An empath would be able to see the reason the second person laughed AND be able to pick up that maybe that person didn't laugh because there was anything funny about what was said, in fact the laugher didn't think it was funny at all, and only laughed because he felt obligated (who knows why) to do so. Am I correct in my example? If not, please tell me where I've gotten anything wrong. Thank you, I'm still trying to learn this stuff. 😊

Great examples guys and reasoning. You make a discussion worth reading and learning from. I did not clarify everything on empathy, because it was just the basic, nor do I know everything about it. Always someone brings something new to the table that is worth looking into and discussing. Plus I was more trying to show the observation parts, because I seemed to notice more in that area then the feeling.

[at] injuredAngelHero
Quick questions, when you do have "feelings" of certain person, when does your opinions start to jump in or does it mix in when you "feel" their emotions?

Anybody could answer to that question, I am just wondering when each person feelings and opinions starts to meld together, and the reason behind it.

For example for me, my observation and empathy starts being a bit opinionated together when I see a change in person's eyes and their eyebrows movements. Like the way they hold their face and eye's start squinting down at you, or they eyes laze and get bored. Etc etc... I know its wrong of me to judge, but this is when my alarms go off, saying I got to watch out.

Good point, I'm still learning, and I know I'm nowhere near done.

Both of you are actually half-way correct. Empathy can either just be a second when you meet someone, but that's when you can't control your connections yet. After you learn control, you make your own connections, so after meeting someone then you can make a connection, and feel their feelings, and later not only their emotions, but their physical as well.

I can usually tell if I like a person or not within the first 5 minutes. Most of the time I am right. I never thought of myself as an empath just a pretty good judge of character. 😕

Please don't take this as an argumental comment, I just want to make my view clear.

On more than one occassion I've experienced, AND heard other people with empathy meet someone and instantly get a feeling from them.

I, myself, have been introduced to a friend's boyfriends, and immediately take a disliking to some. I couldn't understand why, I never seen them before and they didn't get the chance to say anything to me.

I've seen many comments that say people with empathy have done the same.

Sorry about the all caps and, just trying to stress the fact I've done it as well as read other people doing it.

"but empathy is when you see someone new and get a feeling of wheather or not you like them within the glance."

Technically, that's incorrect. The very basis of empathy is feeling emotions of those around you. Getting a bad feeling is just like a sub topic, to that.

Empaths can also walk into a house and feel emtions that are left over from the people that lived there.

Example: You walk into a room and get an uneasy or jumpy feel from the room, and later find out that the people that last lived there had a big fight in that room.

Empaths that can't control their ability can have drastic mood swings, and feel overloaded around large crowds. It may seem like a mental disorder, but the people close to the empath will know that is uncharacteristic for the empath. The empath would usually have well controled emotions, and act like a regular person when not around large crowds.

Reading someone by physical body alone can give you an insight as to how the person is, but empathy is when you see someone new and get a feeling of wheather or not you like them within the glance.

Empaths may not like the feeling they get around a person, and not be able to tell other people why.

Empaths are also people that can look at friends and family and notice something no one else does.

Example: You and two friends are talking, one friend makes a joking comment, but the other walks off. An empath can pick up that the friend walking off, though not showing it, could be hurt or enraged by the comment, and would make an attempt to resolve the issue quick.

Thank you that made it simpler to tell my fiend about being one 😁 ❤

Thank you. That's all never been clear to me and now it is. Apparently I'm an empath.