My Soulmate Of Many Lives Is Being Forced To Hate Me

In light of recent events, well, this problem is no longer a problem, so... This page is now irrelevant.

I will answer your questions in a few days or so. I am busy with something more important than enlightening a few people. There have been a notable amount of beings making their way toward a certain mass of negative energy. I have to diffuse it a little at a time so the beings attached to it don't go into a sort of shock from the sudden change in energy composition.

Well, looks like I'm just in time. I believe I'll take this seat right here in the front row. Popcorn anyone?

Shaolin,

Again I thank you for your answers, they help in drawing a clearer picture of many different things. Now I'm going to say a few things that may not make you happy, and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong with anything I say (once again I'll pull quotes from either your story or your answers in an attempt to demostrate where I'm drawing my conculsions from).

I'll start here with a quote from you:

"I'm saying that I can copy others concepts or create my own, so no I'm not limited to human creations. By the way, it's not just humans that create. Whether or not you meant what you said as an assumption that only humans create or not, I'll just say that regardless."

My original question was this "So are you trying to say that 'Voids' imitate concepts that humans have put forth? Wouldn't this 'limit' their abilities/powers as they would be 'limited' by the constraints that humans and their 'ideas' have 'formed'?"

I never said, nor mentioned 'human creations' I was referring to the Mythologies (human concepts) that Human Kind have developed over History to explain things they do not understand, these Mythologies seem to involve 'Gods' with phenomenal/unlimited powers with 'human' vices... (see the Greek, Roman and even Egyptian Parthenon's as reference) So your answer creates more questions than answer me directly. (Which has been very prevalent with your 'answers'...They seem to invite more questions than actually answer anything).

Then you say this:

"It's not a contradiction. It wasn't the veil at all, it was the mental blocks that kept me from realizing what I needed to do. A natural occurance here is for someone who has not yet awakened, or is awakening, will be open to attacks and intrusions."

This statement holds true for ANYBODY going through a Spiritual Awakening... There are times during the 'learning' process that we are more vulnerable than others to 'outside influences / attacks' and this is why I so very often stress learning to SHIELD one self first... If you are protected you can move forward and learn with Confidence and not shy away from Spiritual Truths and as one grows in knowledge and control one becomes able to 'feel' the Truth and know it for what it is.

What follows next is directly related to your story... The quotes are from your answers to my questions however... So I'll post dates as well as quotes, again so that there is no misunderstanding...

Your Story was Posted on 06Oct10 and yet you state a couple of different things that contradict what you ask in your story. To my question (s) asked on 04Feb11 the first is my question to you:

"You started to fell things come on... Here in this 'realm' or form here on this site? (I think realm because this is from your first story...) What did you 'feel' can you go into more detail?"

Here I must pause and thank you as you truly did go into more detail, from which I'll draw from...

"Well, a couple years went by, I ended up awakening more and more, and breaking more and more of the mental blocks, with the help of my soulmate, who had disassociated from her physical body off and on for a year and then permanently for the last 2 years."

Again I refer to your original Story posted on 06Oct10 where you asked the following question towards end of it...

"I became human and humans don't seem to be able to call whatever power is needed to stop this, maybe it's the veil. I will forever be indebted to whoever helps me get this taken care of, I love her, I can feel she loves me, she's just forced to be what she's not, and I can feel deep inside she wants to be freed. I've cried and screamed at the fact I haven't been able to free her. Even if you can't do it yourself, even if all you do is tell me how, I will never let it go unnoticed. Trust me, having as much love for humanity and working so hard to keep humanity from destroying itself, especially since it's being done with energy working, makes one a lot of enemies, including ones who aren't effected by the veil."

Now in your recent answers to my questions you have stated the following:

"I finally ended up fully awakened and knew full well what I was. I "knew" about 2/3 of the way through my awakening, but didn't believe it until I talked with someone who knows how energies interact, and how different psychism and magic workings effect things. He recited a large amount of natural order to me, and I knew he was right, but I also knew I could work outside those boundaries and still exist here with no difficulty. Such is not even possible as a "god.""

The first thing I must point out is there has not been a 2-3 year gap between your story and my questions... Original Story posted by you 06Oct10... My latest questions 04Feb11... This is nearly 5 months to the date so I fail to see your time frame in your answers.

You also state in your last answers to me that...

"He recited a large amount of natural order to me, and I knew he was right, but I also knew I could work outside those boundaries and still exist here with no difficulty. Such is not even possible as a "god." "

Here is the crux of things... Are you saying you have more power than 'GOD' or are you saying that the 'GOD' of this 'universe' has 'boundaries' he has to adhere to and these do not apply to you?

Lastly, I must agree with what you say here...

"I started creating my own little existence around me, one on a certain plane I made myself, it coincides with this universe, but it's also it's own in a way. Everything checked out, and it's all stable to this day."

You do live in your own little world and I must say you have done a wonderful job of creating it. While there may be those you follow you 'down this rabbit hole' I shall not be one of them for Wonderland is more 'real' than your 'construct'. Be happy there Sir.

I stand with my defenses in place and make you this offer, as you stated,

"If you want to comment on whether or not I can scan you and find out, well you're not in danger, I'd ask first."

Well, I've made my comments, drawn my conclusions and stand ready for any scan you may wish to do.

Respectfully,

Rook

EternalBlackDragon,

Thank you for your words, but all is well here. Trust me. I have asked many questions and Shaolin has been kind enough to answer them. So, please worry not concerning these things, he has simply answered my questions as he said he would do, and I must say he has answered with more detail than I was hopeing for. So I shall continue this discourse with him and remind those that are following along that...Actually, I do have a shovel.

Shaolin,

Thank you again for your answers, It's going to take me some time before I can reply so please be patient with me but know I will reply soon.

Respectfully,

Rook

Shaolin, as I have called before, your arrogance is an unending void within itself. Your problem is solved and yet because of problems caused by you this topic has become out of hand. It is too late right now for me to read all of the most recent posts but I will read the rest in the morning. But so far I have not seen you answer anything, you talk like a politician and stick to your story like a desperate robber caught in the act.

To me all I see in you is a black hearted and misguided soul who wishes to eat up the most attention possible. These others, who wish to help as well as seek knowledge are being distracted by you. If you were truly here to help you would end this discussion and help others instead of distracting those who can also help others.

You have brought down the burden of proof upon yourself, something others were not bring down on you until you caused it to happen.

I wouldn't mind talking with you on any of this so feel free to email me or I'm me on Yahoo.

I appologize if I have overlooked anything and have caused anyone (including Shaolin) any excess grief, I am aiming to bring realization and not more WAR or anger.

~EBD

Rook: You replied, and I'm not sure what you mean when you say, "The answer to the question is in the text." Could you please explain this further as I do not understand what you are trying to say.

I'm saying that I can copy others concepts or create my own, so no I'm not limited to human creations. By the way, it's not just humans that create. Whether or not you meant what you said as an assumption that only humans create or not, I'll just say that regardless. If you want to comment on whether or not I can scan you and find out, well you're not in danger, I'd ask first.

Rook: As I read these it seems there is a contradiction how much the veil may be effecting your 'powers'. I your recent answer you say you are "beings" not effected by the veil and yet clearly in your story you say..."I became human and humans don't seem to be able to call whatever power is needed to stop this, maybe it's the veil."

It's not a contradiction. It wasn't the veil at all, it was the mental blocks that kept me from realizing what I needed to do. A natural occurance here is for someone who has not yet awakened, or is awakening, will be open to attacks and intrusions.

Both my soulmate and I incarnated ourselves in a way that totally bypasses the veil, so our memories and capabilities were intact. However we did decide it best to go through the natural awakening here.

Rook: Just what do you mean by that... Is this 'part of' the story of creation... Of how 'evil' entered our 'world'? That is what I understand, is that even close to what you are trying to say?

This universe was already in existence, but the concepts that make up the "evil" here were forced into the structure of this universe after an amount of time that roughly equates to one million physical years.

Rook: One more thing... You said: "She all the sudden wanted me again, then I felt things starting to come in on here, and she changed back, started hating me even more so than before."

Since she hadn'r awakened enough to realize she can protect herself, a fairly low end demonic being was keeping up the mental blocks. That being was trapped within a "box" made of energy. After that, a very intelligent fallen angel and a person who calls themselves Atazaeron were put in charge of things, though Atazaeron was under the impression if me and my soulmate weren't apart, we'd hurt each other, which was false, we would have awakened and been fine. Since I hadn't awakened far enough to detect my environment fully, I didn't realize who or what was doing it until someone I was helping learn about other planes told me about Atazaeron's involvement, and another source I will keep unnamed for their own peace of mind identified the other being as a fallen angel. Atazaeron admitted to and stopped her involvement willfully, she said everything was fine, and we would be together very soon. That was not the case, my "brother" took over things and almost literally turned my half awakened self into an... Angry mess... Well, a couple years went by, I ended up awakening more and more, and breaking more and more of the mental blocks, with the help of my soulmate, who had disassociated from her physical body off and on for a year and then permanently for the last 2 years. I finally ended up fully awakened and knew full well what I was. I "knew" about 2/3 of the way through my awakening, but didn't believe it until I talked with someone who knows how energies interact, and how different psychism and magic workings effect things. He recited a large amount of natural order to me, and I knew he was right, but I also knew I could work outside those boundaries and still exist here with no difficulty. Such is not even possible as a "god." Then I started creating my own little existence around me, one on a certain plane I made myself, it coincides with this universe, but it's also it's own in a way. Everything checked out, and it's all stable to this day. I know it's real because I had someone scan it, and they pointed out something in it in detail, and I had told them nothing but the location and when they were actually inside the "construct." I was not mentally projecting, so I know it wasn't telepathic transfer that gave him that answer.

God: A being in total awareness of a certain concept or concepts, able to control them within natural boundaries which the element can function.

Shaolin.

Thank you again, many more things to think about with your reply AND more questions if I may.

I'll start here... (with quotes from you from either your Original Story or from your replies so there is no confusion of course)

I asked about this statement from you, ""Voids don't have any "natural" abilities, they either learn from concepts that already exist or they make their own." So are you trying to say that 'Voids' imitate concepts that humans have put forth? Wouldn't this 'limit' their abilities/powers as they would be 'limited' by the constraints that humans and their 'ideas' have 'formed'?"

You replied, and I'm not sure what you mean when you say, "The answer to the question is in the text." Could you please explain this further as I do not understand what you are trying to say.

Next:

(This is from your recent answer): As for the explanations about the veil and such, me and my sou, lmate are both beings who are not at all effected by the veil, since we didn't orginate here. I promised not to work outside natural laws, I didn't say I wouldn't incarnate myself in a way that doesn't work around such natural limitations, though.

(and this from your story): even though I'm a very strong being, as I've been practicing psychic abilities, and other magics through all of my past lives, I haven't broken her free... I became human and humans don't seem to be able to call whatever power is needed to stop this, maybe it's the veil.

As I read these it seems there is a contradiction how much the veil may be effecting your 'powers'. I your recent answer you say you are "beings" not effected by the veil and yet clearly in your story you say..."I became human and humans don't seem to be able to call whatever power is needed to stop this, maybe it's the veil."

Which is it? Are you Human with memories from the 'other side' or have you somehow managed to incarnate so that such 'natural limitations' do not effect you? (this maybe answered by clarifying my first question, if this is the case please skip this question).

You went on in your reply to say: ""There wer emental blocks placed so I didn't remember who I was or what I could do. The reason was plain, the being who did all this to us, in the time we gave our incarnations here to awaken in ways natural to this universe, knew he would be locked away if I realized all of this. That being was my "brother." A void being, and not a literal brother, either, just someone who used to be exactly like me, until his soulmate was messed with in another universe. He has been taking it out on others for a while now. Ever wondered why love is the key to undoing corruption here? It's because every part of his presence flees from it. He feels he doesn't deserve love, and he punishes himself by denying it, and hurts others, too. This universe was naturally all "good," "evil" never existed until my brother and some others corrupted this place. He decided to go the torture route instead of out rightly destroying this universe, or it's inhabitants, and the natural effect of love here remain, part of the torture. It also presents a side effect in a way, it's a natural defense against the corruption."

I understand what you mean by 'the time we gave our incarnations here to awaken in ways natural to this universe.' You have said that you didn't want to go against the 'natural order of things and this is why you gave yourselves this time... I can follow that part of the story...but...BUT you say that another Void Being has been taking out his anger because someone 'messed with his soul mate' and he's taken it out on this universe. That 'evil' never existed here until he (and others) came and corrupted it. He decided to torture this universe instead of out right destruction. You also say Love is the key against this corruption..."it's a natural defense against the corruption." Are you exact words but you also say "the natural effect of love here remain, part of the torture."

Just what do you mean by that... Is this 'part of' the story of creation... Of how 'evil' entered our 'world'? That is what I understand, is that even close to what you are trying to say?

One more thing... You said: "She all the sudden wanted me again, then I felt things starting to come in on here, and she changed back, started hating me even more so than before."

You started to fell things come on... Here in this 'realm' or form here on this site? (I think realm because this is from your first story...) What did you 'feel' can you go into more detail?

I'll leave it at that for now. Thanks again.

Respectfully,

Rook

Rook: I will start with this statement form you... "Voids don't have any "natural" abilities, they either learn from concepts that already exist or they make their own." So are you trying to say that 'Voids' imitate concepts that humans have put forth? Wouldn't this 'limit' their abilities/powers as they would be 'limited' by the constraints that humans and their 'ideas' have 'formed'?

The answer to the question is in the text. As for the explanations about the veil and such, me and my sou, lmate are both beings who are not at all effected by the veil, since we didn't orginate here. I promised not to work outside natural laws, I didn't say I wouldn't incarnate myself in a way that doesn't work around such natural limitations, though. I admit, it is an act that goes against natural order, but the beings who empower whatever "villains" are in this universe do not work inside of those limitations either. To best help and protect everyone, I have to know what's going on whenever I choose to look. Me and my soulmate are together, and actually have been all along. Her physical presence was messed with, and the part of her mind associated with it was, too. Her spirit remained untouched. As for me, I was mentally messed with, too. There wer emental blocks placed so I didn't remember who I was or what I could do. The reason was plain, the being who did all this to us, in the time we gave our incarnations here to awaken in ways natural to this universe, knew he would be locked away if I realized all of this. That being was my "brother." A void being, and not a literal brother, either, just someone who used to be exactly like me, until his soulmate was messed with in another universe. He has been taking it out on others for a while now. Ever wondered why love is the key to undoing corruption here? It's because every part of his presence flees from it. He feels he doesn't deserve love, and he punishes himself by denying it, and hurts others, too. This universe was naturally all "good," "evil" never existed until my brother and some others corrupted this place. He decided to go the torture route instead of out rightly destroying this universe, or it's inhabitants, and the natural effect of love here remain, part of the torture. It also presents a side effect in a way, it's a natural defense against the corruption.

Shaolin,

Many thinks for this answer, I understand what you are saying (can't say I agree, but I understand). Now I'd like ask a couple of more questions and offer advice based on your answer and your Original Story...

I will start with this statement form you... "Voids don't have any "natural" abilities, they either learn from concepts that already exist or they make their own." So are you trying to say that 'Voids' imitate concepts that humans have put forth? Wouldn't this 'limit' their abilities/powers as they would be 'limited' by the constraints that humans and their 'ideas' have 'formed'?

Next... This is a combination of 2 of your statements: "I incarnated myself as a human here, put the majority of my knowledge and power into a container, and then I reabsorbed all of my intelligence and power. And then you say... (from your story) "Including ones who aren't effected by the veil." Let's take these together starting with you becoming 'human'. I'll admit I have no idea what you mean by saying you are a 'Void Being', What I do 'know' is that when the veil is crossed memories / powers / abilities are either lost or forgotten (MOST of the time). This is so the cycle of reincarnation can actually 'work' as one 'grows and learns' through many lifetimes and works ones way towards Enlightenment / Resurection.

Any Spirit / Entity / Being is effected by the veil in some manner... Either they 'work across' it and are unable to take on a 'solid form' or in the case of possession they do not have full use of their 'powers'. By remembering Past Lives or having psychic abilities an individual has remained 'close to the veil' for some reason and this allows them to 'see / feel / draw' from across it. You chose to become Human, and you received all that has to offer.

You also say in your experience that you have experienced many lifetimes with your 'soul mate', perhaps in this 'incarnation' she (her human self) is 'farther' away from the veil and simply does not remember you nor any of the other 'past lives'.

Speaking of 'her' you say this: "In this life she's been messed with, there have been confirmed intrusions into her mind, she seems fine sub consciously, at least upon last check, but I have yet to confirm this is still correct." Confirmed intrusions by 'whom' and 'who' confirmed these intrusions? Perhaps in this 'incarnation' she was not 'meant' to be with you. One should not try and Possess another, physically or mentally. It's just not 'Right'. So I feel stepping back was a good choice.

I'll end with this... And it takes us right back to my first points about the veil, "I know what's wrong with her, and even though I'm a very strong being, as I've been practicing psychic abilities, and other magics through all of my past lives, I haven't broken her free... I became human and humans don't seem to be able to call whatever power is needed to stop this, maybe it's the veil." Are you saying in your 'other lives' you were not human? Then of course I come back to the point that 'Human's do have limitations on how much 'Power / Energy / Abilities they have... If not we would be 'overwhelmed' and / or put no effort into becoming 'Enlightened / Resurrected'... Pick your terms...

It is my personal belief that the 'Human' form that our 'Spirits' take on is to be a learning experience, some return repeatedly, others only once. Some are here to 'teach' and others to 'hamper' but we should all strive to 'choose the right' so that 'Enlightenment / Resurrection may be obtained and they veil may be re-crossed and we can 'rejoin' our 'Spirit Brothers and Sisters'. (Again I'm trying to not 'wax' religious and use 'general' terms. I may never 'understand' why you say you are a 'Void Being' but maybe these words will 'make sense' to you and help you understand what you 'seem' to be going through.

Respectfully,

Rook

I have my own human body, this form was born of unmarried parents, but an egg was fertilized that normally would not have been. That is a matter of force, but I did promise to do things the natural way. I incarnated myself as a human here, put the majority of my knowledge and power into a container, and then I reabsorbed all of my intelligence and power. My personality came with me from the start. Voids don't have any "natural" abilities, they either learn from concepts that already exist or they make their own.

If I haven't answered your question fully, please tell me.

Shaolin,

Thank you for taking the time to answer the things you did. It's all I can expect from an Honorable man such as your self. Sense your arrival you have insisted that you are here only to help people and this is a truly Honorable cause. My questions were simply meant to bring understanding for myself (and possibly others) as some of the things you mentioned did not make any sense to me, but as an Honorable man can do, you have chosen which questions to answer and which ones not to. Also as an Honorable man you tried to put forth your beliefs and aid and while doing so accepted no other alternative possibilities, as an Honorable man is want to do.

So I will surmise from what I do know of you and your Honorable nature that your current physical body was obtained in a most Honorable of ways. As you never would have had to coerce an individual to Host you as you have stated you are a Void being and there for 'not born' but 'formed'...well I'm not sure where but I'm sure that your Honorable persona came from somewhere. Or if I may ask a question of your Honorable self... Do you have a physical form that allows you to interact on this plane or do you have to work through a human body? I will end this here, with that question as I feel the answer to that will explain many, many things.

Respectfully,

Rook

This is one of those moments when I wish I could link a 'derp derp derp' picture - that is what all of this is turning into, seriously.

I have tossed my last bit of bread to the real 'troll' here. There are people who want to h ave serious discussions about actual experiences and I find my time will be better spent in those dialogues.

Callie, I know who you are referring to in that post, it's just I've said however many times I'm not trolling, and what I post is just turned into some FBI style investigation. If you read what DC said about my response to whitebuffalo saying she didn't insult me, then look for her post that starts with with "Ok. Listen up, Jerk. I am talking to YOU, Shaolin." You'll realize she did infact insult me and DC was playing dumb, and twisted the issue around, which is a form of trolling.

Rook, I don't care to explain things to you anymore, you never take the chance to put what I say through it's trials, you just, in a way, call me a liar and a fake. However, I will answer a couple of your questions, just a couple.

When I posted the thing about christ, I was referring to him being persectued for what he said and did, yet they were wrong for punishing him, he wasn't doing anything wrong, and he had his reasons for doing what he did. I'll let you connect the dots from there, and replace persecuting with wrongfully accusing of being "evil"

Yes, I used force in some issues, but it wasn't harmful force. It gave others the opportunity to look into their souls, when much of their environment has failed them, and they ignore whatever in their environment actually gives true help.

Shaolin,

Once again I have asked direct questions, and once again it seems as if I must 'follow the smoke' of the 'flame war' to find where you are at so that I may make an attempt at receiving an answer. This is going to seem like a very long post, I apologize for that in advance.

The following contains quotes from myself and Shaolin with my questions intact...

My questions started with the following post:

"I have asked for clarification and or what you mean and either you were distracted from answering or you ignored my question until I brought it over to your 'story'. I was fine with that, I got an answer... One I did not quite understand so I asked for clarification (this is the whole Intelligent Nature /Intelligent Mass discussion) and it was not you who clarified it, another member posted what they thought you may mean and then you said (paraphrasing here) Yes, that's it... Now you begin to see the truth. I'll admit that what they said allowed me to see where you may be coming from, it did not convince me that you were correct. So now I read the following... (and I quote you)

"I don't mince words, and I'm sorry if you perceive what I say in the wrong way. Maybe ask what I mean when something is not clear, or ask why I mention binding or blinding so much. I answer people's questions and present help in one form or another when it's due, and I only mention anything anyone ever sees as something I "have no right to do" or "have no power over you with" when those attitudes show, and most of the time they show when my motives or claims as to what or who I am, not whether what I say is true. Whether or not you agree doesn't mean you're right or wrong, it's just your opinion." There are some things I'd like to either point out and/ or ask about in this quote from you... If I may...

"I don't mince words, and I'm sorry if you perceive what I say in the wrong way."

Many of us here do not mince words, nor do we want to be perceived the wrong way, but in my first paragraph I gave an example in which it took another member 'clarifying the point you were trying to make before you said something like... Yes that's it... You begin to see the truth...

"Maybe ask what I mean when something is not clear, or ask why I mention binding or blinding so much. I answer people's questions and present help in one form or another when it's due,"

I have done so... And to get you to answer the question I had to bring it to you... This may have been due to you be distracted... Or perhaps you were trying to ignore it... Either way when an answer was finally given I had to ask for further clarification because the original term used was changed in your answer... And when I asked about that I believe you said...Tomato//Tamhato... Which is not an answer to me, this situation is the same I mentioned above and it took another member 'guessing' at your meaning to bring any understanding to the concept of why you would use to different terms (Nature vs Mass) to describe the same thing.

Which brings me to this...

"and I only mention anything anyone ever sees as something I "have no right to do" or "have no power over you with" when those attitudes show, and most of the time they show when my motives or claims as to what or who I am, not whether what I say is true."

What does this mean? I started off with a very long quote... That way nothing is out of context... I have broken this down... Given examples of trying to understand where you are coming from or what you mean (at least for myself) and then I read this... And I re-read it... And read it again and I have no Idea what you are trying to say... So please... What are you trying to say here... What do you mean?

Another Question... You say the site is Bound...Blinded...just what do you mean? Could you please clarify what you have done, so I know what 'effects' I should be looking for to see that it has really happened?"

You then have a reply that reads as follows:

"Rook, Ananda didn't have to clarify it for me, but tried to on her own accord. I was answering emails when she posted it. However, Ananda wasn't correct in what I meant. I had just used two terms to name the same thing. Sorry for any misunderstanding."

And my answer to that... With another question:

"Uh...it wasn't Anandha that said it... It was Shinigami0 that attempted to draw a correlation as to why you used the different terms...

I've moved on from that one and asked two more questions and I'd like to add a third... Let me quote you first and then I'll ask my question...

Some members discussed Christ and the story of the Crucifixion and this was part of one your replies...

"This to me means that some of his accounts of the miracles performed were exaggerated by people. Exaggeration is natural for people who really look up to someone.
However it was not His fault that people made up ludicrous stories about him. He came to do what he had to do and the people rejected him simply because he spoke against the Pharisees and the Sadducees. I am well aware that those posts were not about me, though take a look at them and stop and think, realize I have my reasons for what I do."

It's the last sentence I have a question about... Do you mean to imply you are being persecuted as Jesus Christ was? That is the 'implication' I 'read' from your statement... Is that what you meant?

So now you have 3 questions from me... Could you please answer them? Thank You. (If you wish I will gather them all together in one post to make them easier to find.) "

Now I come back and see you have posted, and again one of those posts leads me to ask a direct question... But let me quote you first so there is no misunderstanding...
(and I'm glad your 'farsightedness' is working... 😉)

"If I wanted to bully you, I wouldn't do it here. I'd take it to emails where the admins and mods would have no jurisdiction. I have a mission here, that fact is glaringly obvious. Why would I try to do something which I would only get in trouble for? I understand threats of any kind are frowned upon here, but I never meant binding or blinding as a harmful thing, just a way to coerce others into looking into their souls when all they do is cling to their environments, which have a very noteable amount of influences which fail them. And yes, I see the retort to that a mile away, whether or not anyone posts it."

You use the word coerce, which means... Definition time here folks...

Coerce (Transitive verb): to make somebody do something against his or her will by using force or threats.

Once again your LOGIC defies me... Could you please explain how these 'methods' of yours do not equate to 'bullying'?

For the record there are 4 direct questions contained with in this post (all gathered together in one place)... Could you please answer them?

Respectfully,

Rook

Oh. I wasn't referring to DC actually...

... I guess my own shields are -just that good-?

DC, your foolishness knows no bounds. You assume way too much, and what makes that a bad thing is you are consistently wrong. If you were really so psychic as you like to make yourself appear, you'd realize I want you here so you can learn. And no, I'm not trying to bully you, merely get you to see the truth. If I wanted to bully you, I wouldn't do it here. I'd take it to emails where the admins and mods would have no jurisdiction. I have a mission here, that fact is glaringly obvious. Why would I try to do something which I would only get in trouble for? I understand threats of any kind are frowned upon here, but I never meant binding or blinding as a harmful thing, just a way to coerce others into looking into their souls when all they do is cling to their environments, which have a very noteable amount of influences which fail them. And yes, I see the retort to that a mile away, whether or not anyone posts it.

Blah, blah, blah,
No one is participating in your flamewar anymore, and this will be my last post to you.
Obviously we don't meet your expectations, and that, to me is so much nicer than what this forum WOULD be like if everyone acted as you have here,
I feel sorry for you, but I won't let that get in the way of ignoring you from here on out.
Good Bye

Gee Shaolin,
If I didn't know better, I'd have to assume that you were attempting to bully me out of here. It's a good thing I don't care what you have to say or I might have my feelings hurt about now.
However, your way of bullying is nothing new or different from any other. Actually it is quite mundane. (yawn)
Good Evening, and Good Bye

DC, have something extremely... Obvious to point out. You mentioned that at least a majority ofthe adults here are parents. Well, I'm a parent too. I take good care of my daughter, and oddly enough, the group I've "underestimated" and which would give me a reason to "be a student" doesn't know more than very crude psychic abilities. I realize that you all may be good parents outside of the psychic community, but here, I am appalled you'd ever let your children believe the lies and practice the same petty stagnation that you present on a daily basis.

DC, you were never with us. Any time something that could ever be questioned comes up, it's insult this, play a game with that. You've contributed a grand total of what 10 constructive posts? Excuse me if people here don't believe me, but I am what I am, your perceptions don't change that. It's not my problem that every time I try to help people here I'm ridiculed, insulted, and called a liar just because "we have seen no proof of your abilities." There was a long period before anyone had proof of psychic abilities, period, but that didn't change the fact the first psychic on earth actually had them. I may leave I may not, depends on if this place is worth trying to save.

Gee Shao,
Does that mean you're leaving us?
If only that were true...

Yes, callie, DC is a very obvious troll. If you all would read whitebuffalo's posts, she diretly referred to me as a jerk. Anyway, I did what I came here to do, prove to you all you look for truth in the wrong places.

I think the real 'troll' around here is showing himself. And it was so nice and quiet for a day or so, and real issues were being discussed...

So Shaolin,
Enlighten us... You shouldn't call names without showing what she lied about. There's no reason to lie when it comes to you.
And WB doesn't lie!
PLUS, that's just you picking ANOTHER fight.

Whitebuaffalo, now you lie to everyone's face. Calling someone a jerk is insulting them.

DC, I guarantee I will protect those minors just as much as you would from threats. Though, if you were referring to what I say, I'm sorry you haven't gotten what I've been doing even though I out rightly said it.

Shaolin,
I was wondering if you could answer a couple of questions for the good of the group?
Why are you here at this particular website? Why do you keep coming back here knowing, as you do, that you only cause chaos?
Why don't you just go on your way? Why not find a place and group of people that would be more welcoming to you?
Because frankly, you're attitude will never be accepted, and you can't wear us down, we won't ever give in to whatever you are planning, and there's no way we'll let you have free reign over this site when there are minors to consider. You see, if nothing else we will protect them from you. It's apparent you haven't considered what that means to us. We are all parents. And though we are not their parents we are parents just the same. Maybe you've not come across a group like us before, and now it's your turn to be a student.
I suggest you may have underestimated our determination to keep this a place where they aren't constantly being threatened with attacks.
You should be ashamed of yourself for having created this atmosphere in plain view of the younger ones here.
Good Day.

For the record: and I will say no more on THIS one.

I NEVER tried to discredit you in these comments, here.

I DID ask for mature debate, NOT name calling.

There is nothing for you to explain to me. There never was. I said: Stop the name calling. I asked you to act in a mature manner. Reread what I wrote here.

A good teacher must also be willing to learn.

the thing is, you claim asinine things, but have no proof, or even experiences of what your talking about.

Yet you claim your here to "Test" us, to see if we will believe you. And at the same time you say that we are gullible and we don't get the truth, yet your saying completely baseless B.S., so you basically discredited yourself with your contradictions.

If you have expierences or anyother info that your "i am god, I know everything" attitude, I would be glad to hear them.